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He has not won at the College or NBA levels, the only 2 things I care about. Guess he isn't a winner.


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You have to chose 1. I would love to start every season with the Dream Team.

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Ok. We'll come back to this in 10 years when Dwight's career is over. You know, he is still pretty young. Him not being a winner isn't permanent. Remember that Peyton Manning guy? Lots of people said he was not a winner. Couldn't win. Then he did. That was cool. Now he's a winner. Nevermind the other 50 guys that helped. Or Grossman throwing silly interceptions. Peyton is a winner. Period.
What does Peyton Manning have to do with anything? I don't get the relevance. You compared the actions of Magic Johnson, who already had won a title, with a guy that hasn't come close to that.

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He has not won at the College or NBA levels, the only 2 things I care about. Guess he isn't a winner.

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You have to chose 1. I would love to start every season with the Dream Team.


Not. The point of this thread, was to say he didn't want Dwight with the Bulls. I want Dwight with the Bulls. That has nothing to do with how good Derrick Rose is. I want them both.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
Ok. We'll come back to this in 10 years when Dwight's career is over. You know, he is still pretty young. Him not being a winner isn't permanent. Remember that Peyton Manning guy? Lots of people said he was not a winner. Couldn't win. Then he did. That was cool. Now he's a winner. Nevermind the other 50 guys that helped. Or Grossman throwing silly interceptions. Peyton is a winner. Period.
What does Peyton Manning have to do with anything? I don't get the relevance. You compared the actions of Magic Johnson, who already had won a title, with a guy that hasn't come close to that.


Their actions are identical. They literally did the exact same thing. That is why I compared them. As I mentioned, other aspects of their life may be different. Dwight still has the opportunity to win championships. This case isn't closed.


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Their actions are identical. They literally did the exact same thing. That is why I compared them. As I mentioned, other aspects of their life may be different. Dwight still has the opportunity to win championships. This case isn't closed.
Is your point that no one should ever look down on any player who tries to get the coach fired because Magic Johnson did it?

I disagree. Dwight Howard has been pretty pathetic for a while now in this.

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I think I will take advantage of this opportunity and just go ahead and declare that I am comparable to Michael Jordan.


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You have to chose 1. I would love to start every season with the Dream Team.


Not. The point of this thread, was to say he didn't want Dwight with the Bulls. I want Dwight with the Bulls. That has nothing to do with how good Derrick Rose is. I want them both.


Dwight Howard is a cancer and he continues to prove with his actions and words that winning isn't the most important thing to him. The Bulls can win without that type of personality in the locker room. Right now they're winning more than the Magic without Rose.

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Their actions are identical. They literally did the exact same thing. That is why I compared them. As I mentioned, other aspects of their life may be different. Dwight still has the opportunity to win championships. This case isn't closed.
Is your point that no one should ever look down on any player who tries to get the coach fired because Magic Johnson did it?

I disagree. Dwight Howard has been pretty pathetic for a while now in this.


The point, is that there are other things that are more important to worry about. Namely, talent. He has that. Should his personality be a factor in deciding if he should come here? Sure. But his talent should far outweigh that. Dude is awesome at basketball. That's what matters.

I also agree Dwight has been very pathetic. Not arguing that one bit. His personality is childish. Lots of players in the league have childish personalities. Lots of players who are "winners" and win championships have childish personalities. Because he doesn't have a mature personality yet, does not mean he can not win.

The point is, his talent FAR exceeds that. Especially in the case which this thread is directed... which is him coming to Chicago. He would be second fiddle. The best big man in the league, would be second fiddle. As a Bulls fan, that would make me ecstatic.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I think I will take advantage of this opportunity and just go ahead and declare that I am comparable to Michael Jordan.


Both men (I think?). Good work. :lol: :wink:


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I think I will take advantage of this opportunity and just go ahead and declare that I am comparable to Michael Jordan.


You're a man that likes basketball so I understand.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
You have to chose 1. I would love to start every season with the Dream Team.


Not. The point of this thread, was to say he didn't want Dwight with the Bulls. I want Dwight with the Bulls. That has nothing to do with how good Derrick Rose is. I want them both.


Dwight Howard is a cancer and he continues to prove with his actions and words that winning isn't the most important thing to him. The Bulls can win without that type of personality in the locker room. Right now they're winning more than the Magic without Rose.


The Bulls can win with or without that personality. I believe they have a better chance of winning with his talent.


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I missed something. We should not compare Magic to Dwight. Magic had multiple Hall of Fame talents as teammates. Dwight has not. Not fair. Not comparable.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
The point, is that there are other things that are more important to worry about. Namely, talent. He has that. Should his personality be a factor in deciding if he should come here? Sure. But his talent should far outweigh that. Dude is awesome at basketball. That's what matters.


What good does having that talent on your team do you if "the talent" decides to be a dickhead and not take the game seriously?

Look at Dennis Rodman back in the day. Dude used to wear wedding dresses, Chris. Wedding. Dresses. But he gave a shit about winning, and he believed in his coach.

Dwight Howard has proven time and again this season that he only cares about himself.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
The point, is that there are other things that are more important to worry about. Namely, talent. He has that. Should his personality be a factor in deciding if he should come here? Sure. But his talent should far outweigh that. Dude is awesome at basketball. That's what matters.


What good does having that talent on your team do you if "the talent" decides to be a dickhead and not take the game seriously?

Look at Dennis Rodman back in the day. Dude used to wear wedding dresses, Chris. Wedding. Dresses. But he gave a shit about winning, and he believed in his coach.

Dwight Howard has proven time and again this season that he only cares about himself.


He's also proven that he is the best big man in basketball. As a second fiddle to Derrick Martell Rose, it doesn't matter if he wears a dress while playing. The Bulls would win a championship.


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Individually he's more talented than the guys the Bulls would be giving away but collectively they make the Bulls the best team in the NBA. The Bulls don't have the most talent but they have everyone giving their all and accepting their roles.

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He's also proven that he is the best big man in basketball. As a second fiddle to Derrick Martell Rose, it doesn't matter if he wears a dress while playing. The Bulls would win a championship.


And when has he shown that he would be comfortable playing second fiddle to anybody? Keep in mind the guy we are talking about was booed on his home court last night, then looked up at the scoreboard and gestured for fans to continue doing it.

Sounds like a real team player to me.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
The point, is that there are other things that are more important to worry about. Namely, talent. He has that. Should his personality be a factor in deciding if he should come here? Sure. But his talent should far outweigh that. Dude is awesome at basketball. That's what matters.


What good does having that talent on your team do you if "the talent" decides to be a dickhead and not take the game seriously?

Look at Dennis Rodman back in the day. Dude used to wear wedding dresses, Chris. Wedding. Dresses. But he gave a shit about winning, and he believed in his coach.

Dwight Howard has proven time and again this season that he only cares about himself.


Dwight is prissy drama queen bitch. He went through all this shit, put his team through it, lies about wanting the coach fired, says he wants to win for the fans, to not give up on his team.........and then he goes out and gives up on his team. His quitting was so blatant and obvious it was totally pathetic. Dwight is destined to be a good ole' "Star #2" on championship team at this rate.

Also, has his "game" evolved at all since he has been in the NBA?

Shit or get off the pot, Queen Dwight.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
The point, is that there are other things that are more important to worry about. Namely, talent. He has that. Should his personality be a factor in deciding if he should come here? Sure. But his talent should far outweigh that. Dude is awesome at basketball. That's what matters.


What good does having that talent on your team do you if "the talent" decides to be a dickhead and not take the game seriously?

Look at Dennis Rodman back in the day. Dude used to wear wedding dresses, Chris. Wedding. Dresses. But he gave a shit about winning, and he believed in his coach.

Dwight Howard has proven time and again this season that he only cares about himself.


He's also proven that he is the best big man in basketball. As a second fiddle to Derrick Martell Rose, it doesn't matter if he wears a dress while playing. The Bulls would win a championship.


He wants to be the man. That's why the Bulls never made his list. Besides there are very few good centers in the league so it doesn't mean the same as it would a decade ago.

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I think I will take advantage of this opportunity and just go ahead and declare that I am comparable to Michael Jordan.


I could definitely see you running the Charlotte Bobcats right into the ground.


Now onto business: the fact remains that Howard is, at the VERY least, mentally fragile and a bit of a simpleton to go with it. More than likely, he's a pouty bitch that, on his own, can't decide whether to shit or get off the pot, and it's almost a given that whatever someone finally pushes him to decide which to do, he'll bitch about it either way, completely absolving himself (in his mind) of anything remotely resembling personal responsibility. This should not be new or challenging to anybody that's even tacitly interested in the NBA.

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I think I will take advantage of this opportunity and just go ahead and declare that I am comparable to Michael Jordan.


I could definitely see you running the Charlotte Bobcats right into the ground.


Now onto business: the fact remains that Howard is, at the VERY least, mentally fragile and a bit of a simpleton to go with it. More than likely, he's a pouty bitch that, on his own, can't decide whether to shit or get off the pot, and it's almost a given that whatever someone finally pushes him to decide which to do, he'll bitch about it either way, completely absolving himself (in his mind) of anything remotely resembling personal responsibility. This should not be new or challenging to anybody that's even tacitly interested in the NBA.


Why do you have me on ignore?


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Don Tiny wrote:
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I think I will take advantage of this opportunity and just go ahead and declare that I am comparable to Michael Jordan.


I could definitely see you running the Charlotte Bobcats right into the ground.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I think I will take advantage of this opportunity and just go ahead and declare that I am comparable to Michael Jordan.


I could definitely see you running the Charlotte Bobcats right into the ground.


Now onto business: the fact remains that Howard is, at the VERY least, mentally fragile and a bit of a simpleton to go with it. More than likely, he's a pouty bitch that, on his own, can't decide whether to shit or get off the pot, and it's almost a given that whatever someone finally pushes him to decide which to do, he'll bitch about it either way, completely absolving himself (in his mind) of anything remotely resembling personal responsibility. This should not be new or challenging to anybody that's even tacitly interested in the NBA.


Why do you have me on ignore?


:lol: I have spoken before about my issues with under-skimming threads longer than 6 posts ... :lol: scuzi, scuzi ... consider it an affirmation of your point ... or, perhaps, consider it condemnation of it since I'm actually putting a basketball thought out there ...

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I think I will take advantage of this opportunity and just go ahead and declare that I am comparable to Michael Jordan.


I could definitely see you running the Charlotte Bobcats right into the ground.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Where were the Bobcats before this?

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I have spoken before about my issues with under-skimming threads longer than 6 posts ... scuzi, scuzi ... consider it an affirmation of your point ... or, perhaps, consider it condemnation of it since I'm actually putting a basketball thought out there ...


Hmmmm, I double edged sword I suppose.


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