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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:05 am 
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Drop the hammer Stern!

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NBA weighs flopping penalties

MIAMI -- David Stern is determined to stop the floppers, even if it takes until the next morning.

The NBA commissioner believes too many players are deceiving referees into calling fouls by falling down, or flopping. So he and the league's newly reformed competition committee met Monday for a discussion about how it can be prevented.

One option, Stern said, is a "postgame analysis" in which a player could be penalized if it was determined he flopped. The league retroactively upgrades or downgrades flagrant fouls after review, and along those lines he said that perhaps a player could receive a message from New York saying: "Greetings from the league office. You have been assigned flopper status."

"No, I'm joking, but something like that," Stern said. "That sort of lets people know that it's not enough to say 'it's all part of the game.' "

The committee is made up of coaches Doc Rivers of Boston, Rick Carlisle of Dallas and Lionel Hollins of Memphis; owners Dan Gilbert of Cleveland and Joe Lacob of Golden State, and general managers Bryan Colangelo of Toronto, Sam Presti of Oklahoma City, Mitch Kupchak of the Lakers and Kevin O'Connor of Utah.

During a 6-hour meeting, they also discussed expanding instant replay for flagrant fouls and goaltending, decided the lottery system is the best one currently available, and seemed to favor leaving the away from the ball foul rule as is, so coaches could continue to intentionally foul notoriously bad free throw shooters.

Any rules changes they recommend would have to be approved by the league's Board of Governors, set for its next meeting in July.

Stern hopes by then to have a policy to address flopping, which bothers him because he feels it tricks the referees. He said there's a "broad array of issues" to look at that can let players know the practice is to be discouraged.

"If you continue to do this, you may you have to suffer some consequences," he said. "What those exactly should be and what the progression is is to be decided, because ... we just want to put a stake in the ground that says this is not something that we want to be part of our game, without coming down with a sledgehammer but just doing it in a minimalist way to begin stamping it out. And I think there are ways we can do that and we'll have to wait and see exactly what we come up with."

Stern has talked of allowing replay on all flagrants. Referees currently can only look at the more severe flagrant-2 penalties to determine if they indeed warranted ejection or should be downgraded to flagrant-1s. He has said he is intrigued by the international goaltending rules, which allow a defensive player to knock the ball off the rim.

He's neutral when it comes to the away from the ball fouls, which led to Hack-a-Shaq and which the Thunder used while intentionally fouling San Antonio's Tiago Splitter in the Western Conference finals. On one hand, he feels bad for the player who is being embarrassed by his poor free throw shooting; on the other, he understands that maybe coaches should then take the player out.

The committee appears to be leaning toward the status quo.

"It's fair to say there was a strong sense that we shouldn't cut down on the toolbox that coaches have available to them, despite what may seem the unseemliness of the way it goes down," Stern said. "But that's just one of the things that you do if you want to win and it works."

He said the committee, formerly made up of the league's general managers, plans to reconvene in September.

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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:11 am 
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I say handcuff the floppers to Jeff Van Gundy for a few hours.

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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:21 am 
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How will Wade be able to play then? or Lebron?

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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:23 am 
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That top gif is Bosh.

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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:24 am 
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Douchebag wrote:
That top gif is Bosh.


He forgot to log in as WhiteAndProud...

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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:27 am 
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They need to call traveling and carries than lets see about the flops. RIP the killer crossover :)

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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:44 am 
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It's starting to get as bad as soccer. I think that if you flop and are caught flopping by the refs either you should be given a foul or even a technical foul. It's horse shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:31 pm 
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How will Wade be able to play then? or Lebron?


especially with Dan Gilbert on the committee....


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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
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Yeah Miami better win this year then if they're going to lose half their game plan.


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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
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It's all subjective

:lol: Bad mult.

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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:59 pm 
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make it a foul and if its blatent flopping then call it unsportsmanlike conduct and eject them.

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 Post subject: Re: Flopping
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FarvaFan wrote:
It's all subjective

:lol: Bad mult.


God damn, am I a dumbass ..... :lol:

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