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 Post subject: Jason Kidd to Bucks?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:30 pm 
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Granted Billy King sucks, but how fucking delusional can one be?

Apparently Jason Kidd isn’t satisfied with just coaching, but he’ll have to be if he stays with the Nets.

According to a league source, Kidd recently approached ownership with a series of demands, including the role of overseeing the Nets’ basketball operations department in addition to his head coaching responsibilities. The source said Kidd didn’t want general manager Billy King to be dismissed, but wanted to be given a title and placed above him in the organizational hierarchy.

Ownership declined to grant Kidd that kind of power, which is rare for any coach in the league to have. The source said ownership felt Kidd wasn’t ready for that kind of responsibility after having only one year of coaching experience — the team finished his first season on the bench with a 44-38 record, good for sixth in the Eastern Conference — and allowed Kidd to seek other opportunities.

The franchise then was approached by the Bucks for permission to speak with Kidd about the prospect of hiring him, and the Nets granted permission.

Bucks coach Larry Drew just completed his first season in Milwaukee after the team hired him last summer following his contract expiring with Atlanta.

Kidd did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Bucks, long one of the league’s moribund franchises, has been injected with new life after the sale of the team from its longtime owner, Sen. Herb Kohl, for $550 million to New York investment firm executives Wes Edens and Marc Lasry, who is a good friend of Kidd, in mid-May.

Milwaukee selected Duke star Jabari Parker with the second overall pick in Thursday’s draft at, ironically, Barclays Center in Brooklyn, pairing him with rookie Giannis Antetokounmpo to give them two exciting young forwards to build around.

Holding the dual roles of both coaching a team and overseeing basketball operations is rare in the NBA, with only San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Detroit’s Stan Van Gundy, Minnesota’s Flip Saunders and the Clippers’ Doc Rivers currently holding both roles. Van Gundy and Saunders assumed their roles this offseason.

The Nets hired Kidd last June less than a month after he retired from a stellar 19-year Hall of Fame career in which he spent six-plus seasons with the franchise, leading them to a pair of Finals appearances and establishing himself as the best player in the franchise’s NBA history.

Kidd endured a rocky start, including a 10-21 record through the opening two months of the season and the “re-assignment” to filing daily reports of assistant coach Lawrence Frank — who had signed a six-year contract worth roughly $1 million on average last summer after being pursued by his former point guard with the Nets. Kidd turned things around after the start of 2014, leading Brooklyn to a 34-17 record from Jan. 1 through the end of the regular season.

The decision to swap out Shaun Livingston for Alan Anderson in Games 6 and 7 was a deciding factor in the Nets’ comeback from a 3-2 deficit to advance to the Eastern Conference semifinals, where they eventually lost to the Heat in five games.

Kidd was on hand at the unveiling of the site of the team’s new practice facility in Brooklyn on Thursday, and spoke at length about the state of the franchise. He expressed a desire for the franchise to re-sign free agents Paul Pierce, Shaun Livingston, Alan Anderson and Andray Blatche.

He also said he would be with the team this week in Orlando, where the Nets’ Summer League team will begin practicing ahead of its first game Saturday morning. Unlike last summer, however, when Kidd coached several games, he said assistant coach Sean Sweeney would run the team.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason Kidd to Bucks?
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Um, isn't R.C. Buford the general manager of the Spurs? or is it like how the Patriots were with Belichick and what's-his-name, the fuckup who went to Kansas City, where the GM did all the everyday drudge work but the coach had final say on the roster?

Speaking of fuckups, Jason Kidd is one. The Nets should just let Lawrence Frank coach again and the NBA should not let Kidd coach anywhere.

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The NBA is :lol:

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Lawrence Frank is a shitty coach. Jason Kidd is a shitty coach who does shit to embarrass the team. Nobody should hire either one of them again. But since it's the NBA they will each have like 9 more jobs over the next 15 years in the league.

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:lol: Kidd is an idiot.

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Kidd swung for the fences knowing he had somewhere else to go. I don't blame him. The Nets will be bad for a while.

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Kidd should just hire LeBron as his agent. He runs the league anyway.

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The NBA sure doesn't have a shortage of dumb rich people.

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Jason Kidd has deep personal and professional ties with new Bucks owner Marc Lasry, and hiring him to run franchise is a real consideration.


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ESPN sources say Bucks and Nets have already begun discussing potential compensation to free Kidd from last three years of Brooklyn contract

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1 step forward getting Parker.

5 steps backward in hiring Kidd.

Poor Hawg

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As for U-Turn back to Nets? Likely too late. "Russians are done with Kidd," one source tells Yahoo. Belief is that King is more forgiving.

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The NBA is :lol:


agree, every guy thinks they can do whatever they want.

Now that the owners have amnesty deals, wait until the next lockout with 50% buyouts on the table!

No way the owners dont look for money back on deals that the players are running.

Going to be a long lockout, but it is the top issue with owners right now.

or maybe signing bonuses come in and they arent cap related, so no dead money sits on the back end.

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Bucks ownership claiming they are not aware of their own interest in Kidd. LOL

I believe one of the owners is pretty good friends with Kidd.

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agree, every guy thinks they can do whatever they want.

Now that the owners have amnesty deals, wait until the next lockout with 50% buyouts on the table!

No way the owners dont look for money back on deals that the players are running.

Going to be a long lockout, but it is the top issue with owners right now.

or maybe signing bonuses come in and they arent cap related, so no dead money sits on the back end.

The owners kicked the players ass in the last lockout. How many more times do the owners want the league to protect them from their own stupidity? The players union is still a mess and still doesn't even have a union head yet. They'll probably get their asses kicked again. But the owners can't claim broke anymore.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... nyone-else

This story was broke by a poster on realgm Thursday night..

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I really would love for this to happen. Let the Jason Kidd train wreck continue.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24601175/how-a-realgm-poster-broke-the-jason-kidd-story-before-anyone-else

This story was broke by a poster on realgm Thursday night..


Didn't like how the article portrayed Carl2680 as a "poster" with no real scrutiny. he joined the same day of the post, meaning it's likely the dude created an account just to post the information. Could be a true insider in either camp, but if that's the case I wonder why not go to a paper. Or maybe he did and went to the website as well. But this is far from some regular, anonymous poster coming up with breaking news information.

Anyway, in lieu of a shout out thread, they've taken to creating a "Carl2680 appreciation thread" :lol: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtop ... b869fc4020

What is beardown going to do to top this? And when do we start calling beardown a poor man's Carl2680?

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Jason Kidd will be the next head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks if the Brooklyn Nets agree to the Bucks' terms of a 2015 second-round draft pick in exchange for Kidd, a source with direct knowledge told ESPN on Sunday.


What the hell is this shit? Is this really news?

Breaking news: If Melo accepts the Bulls over he will become the next member of the Chicago Bulls.

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1 step forward getting Parker.

5 steps backward in hiring Kidd.

Poor Hawg

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I really would love for this to happen. Let the Jason Kidd train wreck continue.

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Good for Kidd I guess. The Nets are going to be bad for a while thanks to giving up so many assets and thanks to having Billy King making personnel decisions. He does kind of get some of the credit for their turnaround in the second half of the season, so may as well parlay that into a better deal in a better situation. I read one of the reasons he took this course was because he was mad about the deals that Fisher and Kerr got as first-time coaches :lol:


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This is happening for 2 2nd round picks, my goodness. :roll:

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This is happening for 2 2nd round picks, my goodness. :roll:

This doesn't come cheap

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Good for him. Bad for Larry Drew.

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Does Hammond continue to be the puppet for much longer?

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Good for him. Bad for Larry Drew.

Who is out of the country and is probably reading this post finding out what is going on.

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