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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:07 pm 
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here we go: entire preseason cancelled, first two weeks of regular season likely to be

It will probably be more than just the first 2 weeks of the regular season likely to go by the waistside. This NBA lockout is going to get uglier before the two sides sign a new collective bargaining agreement, Bagels. Whether or not it'll reach a point where the entire season gets cancelled remains to be seen.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:23 pm 
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Well it didn't help today that there was supposed to be a meeting, but since the players weren't going to agree to a 50-50 split, they cancelled and now a 99% chance the first 2 weeks will be cancelled.


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Bagels wrote:
here we go: entire preseason cancelled, first two weeks of regular season likely to be

It will probably be more than just the first 2 weeks of the regular season likely to go by the waistside. This NBA lockout is going to get uglier before the two sides sign a new collective bargaining agreement, Bagels. Whether or not it'll reach a point where the entire season gets cancelled remains to be seen.


Agreed. As long as all these players personally go to the negotiating sessions, nothing will get done anytime soon. They're multi-millionaires who don't like to lose.

I forsee at least half the regular season going bye bye.

Damn shame.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:47 am 
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The players have offered to give a shit ton of money back. Now the owners want them to agree to a 50/50 split before they even sit down to negotiate anything else. The players should back away, that is a ridiculous demand.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:22 pm 
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Players and owners have agreed to meet tonight to try and prevent any regular season cancellations. Maybe we will see a deal get done.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:58 pm 
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No. We won't. The owners are fucking stupid. The players should tell Stern to go fuck himself and play in Europe, China, and South America. The money won't be all that worse for the majority of them it looks like.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:03 pm 
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Pretty good article I saw on ESPN.com today:

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And none: The NBA's phony deadline

Tony Parker has something to do if there are no NBA games, and it looks a lot like what he'd be doing anyway.

This mutual suicide pact among NBA owners, for example. They had another meeting Sunday night to suss out the details. Slow poison, or a quick bullet to the brain? We'll hear more about it Monday afternoon once NBA commissioner, executioner and grief counselor David Stern starts canceling regular season games. At least that's what we've been told. Or threatened. It's just the latest phony deadline in the absurd story of a nonsense lockout.

We're on the brink! The whole apparatus is at risk! Save us!

Idiots.

Sorry. I had a whole polite thing worked up. Lots of statistics. Reasonable. All points of view represented. But this is just deeply, impossibly stupid. In fact, the more I think about it, the angrier I get, and the more I realize that any owner who can't break even on professional sports in this country is a moron. Or a liar. Honestly. If you can't manage a pro team at a modest profit in the United States of America in the early years of the 21st century, you shouldn't be allowed to vote or operate a motor vehicle. You shouldn't be allowed near the stove.

At a time when the production and consumption of distraction are the only healthy sectors of the American economy, and when city, county, state and federal tax dollars pay for the arenas and the stadiums, to lose money on the operation of a pro sports franchise has to be grounds for involuntary psychiatric commitment. Or prosecution.

And if any of this sounds familiar, consider where we've heard it before.

The NBA, too big to fail!

Because between the lines of all this basketball madness is just another example of the nitwit superrich expecting their employees and/or the government and/or the general public to bail them out.

Save us from ourselves! they cry. Save us from our cartoon greed and our lurid excesses!

These credit derivatives are a win-win-win right down the line!

These credit default swaps are in no way a ticking time bomb!

This Eddy Curry contract will never blow up in my face!

Never!

So here we are.

We'd watch more barnstorming Dwyane Wade and LeBron James and friends if the NBA cancels games.

Back to the sort of disaster capitalism we've seen from the leagues before. And from Wall Street. And from Congress. Another bogus stalemate in which the fan loses and for which the little guy pays. Same old con game standoff between management and labor.

OK. Fine. Let it fail. I'm tired of being played for a sucker.

There's basketball everywhere.

In an economy this bad, most of us will be happy to watch college ball the next six months; or the satellite package with Lega Basket Serie A on it and the Israeli Basketball Super League, down at the corner bar; or we'll thumb through our own season on the Xbox. Or just watch the kids play in the driveway. These are lean days, Clueless Billionaire.

Or maybe the players will start their own league and barnstorm from armory to armory the way they did it back when. The value in the NBA is the talent, after all. And as start-ups go, it wouldn't cost much: just $89 to incorporate in Delaware. Call it the Peoples' Traveling Basketball League (patent pending). Twenty bucks a seat.

Me? I'll go up to the Rucker, or over to 4th Street. Or I'll walk to Sara D. Roosevelt Park and watch the neighborhood game from a bench with the other old kibitzers. See some young men as gifted and ambitious and carefree as players anywhere. Beautiful to watch. Once it gets cold out, we'll move the game inside to the community center. Whole thing costs nothing. Unless we go around the corner to Yonah Schimmel's for knishes at halftime. Then it's $3.50. Try the kasha.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:00 pm 
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Stern has to go. He has had 2 season lose games during his time as Commish, that can't happen. After the great season they had last year, you really can't cut games this season. He dropped the ball big time

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:04 pm 
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i think stern kinda sucks too. he is cool in some areas but i would like to see the nba potrayed more like the nfl. right now stern wants all nba players to be role models and thats fine, its a nice little family event but why... thats what local sports are for. this is big time, the best of best supposedly. thats why the nba struggles, because people see it as a pussy sport. as they should, not because it is but thats exactly how stern wants people to see it.

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I was listening to somebody else on this today, said they tried really hard to get a last minute deal, but for the deal to get done, the players will be the ones caving and a lot.

He thought, you would have NBA, but not untill January or February.


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Guy on ESPN last night said they are looking for a 60-75 game season. If it's 75, I would think it needs to be done this week.

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schmitty1121 wrote:
Guy on ESPN last night said they are looking for a 60-75 game season. If it's 75, I would think it needs to be done this week.

Pretty much. With two weeks of the season gone, that's roughly 8 games per team. I really thought they would get something done last night, but obviously my optimism ignored the inept leadership on both sides of the table.

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schmitty1121 wrote:
Guy on ESPN last night said they are looking for a 60-75 game season. If it's 75, I would think it needs to be done this week.

Pretty much. With two weeks of the season gone, that's roughly 8 games per team. I really thought they would get something done last night, but obviously my optimism ignored the inept leadership on both sides of the table.

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Phil McCracken wrote:
Here's my question. I was reading that the owners want to include an amnesty clause that allows teams out from one bad contract on the roster. If you are the Bulls do you consider buying out Boozer?

Damn Phil, you had it like 3 years ago.

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