it wasn't 40 million Wade gave back and why is it that the only people that keep saying the money was similar are people that subscribe to this board. The money know matter how you slice it was not similar. He would have had to sacrifice a great deal of money to come here.

_________________

Those were regular season numbers and both are true. He's been God awful in the playoffs and hasn't been a difference maker. Not wanting the pressure of playing for a team that can compete for a title proves he is as soft as marshmallows. He has a limited history of making game winning baskets in the regular season. There is no flip flop.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

When was he ever in Utah?

_________________

Oops. Denver.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Marshmelo said it too. He said the Bulls offered him a 2 year deal. The same deal the best player in the NBA took. Wade took less money. The Bulls didn't ask Marshmelo to take less money. In fact they offered him a chance at wwinning an NBA championship AND making more money in 2 years than he took this season. He turned it down.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I didn't ever hear of the distinction until he decided to remain in New York. At least BRICK to his credit has been consistent though wrong in his argument. You jumped on the Melo bashing bandwagon once he chose to stay in New York. On this one your credibility is a little suspect

_________________

If my credibility is suspect does that make you a liar? I never flip flopped. Even when I pointed out Marshmelo's shortcomings I still said I would want him on the Bulls.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Speaking of being consistent.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Wanting Melo in Chicago doesn't mean you ignore or dismiss all his flaws. Melo deserves to be criticized for expressing championship aspirations and then signing with the perpetually mediocre and irrelevant NYK franchise. If he had said this is about money then no one.would have strong grounds to criticize him.

Long time guy: please don't say the Knicks improved under Melo. They've been the same crap mediocre team for the past 10-12 years. Classic lipstick on a pig example.

_________________
Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

If you believe that he isn't a championship caliber player as his playoff performances have indicated why would u think he is a championship caliber player. That makes no sense. Either you believed in the guy or u dont. It is apparent that you jumped off the bandwagon once he decided to remain on New York. One week he was clutch the next he was soft as a Marshmelo. Those were your words and they were made during the off season when there were no games played.

_________________

their best season in fifteen yrs has been with him as their best player. The Knicks are not a crap franchise because of Anthony. If they believed that then why resign him. They are not going to win with him and he will never win a championship as the guy on a team. My only point is that the teams he's been on have never been expected to win anything. You need supporting players to win. When I support my argument with facts those facts are neglected. I don't have the time or interest to engage in such futility. I provided a list in a previous thread which supports what I am saying and it was overlooked. The great Lebron James left Miami to play with two all stars after leaving Cleveland to play with two all stars yet supporting casts means nothing when it comes to winning. Give me a break

_________________

Why is it so hard for you? If you really want to talk about a flip flop the only one I made was initially being AGAINST him coming to the Bulls. After considering what he could provide and looking at the Bulls coach (2nd best in the NBA) I thought (still believe) he would be a great fit. The belief was Thibs could bring out more of his positives and that our roster was strong enough to limit his negative tendencies. When pointing out his playoff shortcomings I NEVER said I didn't want him on the Bulls. My argument was more about him not being as good or as big a difference maker as you believed.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

No one has ever accused the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame of being too selective.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I can guarantee u that Lewis won't be in there

_________________

once again the argument becomes conflated then it becomes distorted. Your argument wasn't about how he fits with The Bulls it was about what you thought of him as a player. Your perception if him as a player changed drastically after he decided to remain in New York.

_________________

In fairness, his wife might be the one in control.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

How you feel doesn't change what I've posted during the summer or the past few years. I was AGAINST him coming here initially because of his negative tendencies. I eventually changed my mind because I believed his scoring ability could put the Bulls over the top and I believed Thibs would make him a better player. That never changed even after pointing out his shortcomings. However I never knew how mentally fragile his was either. That's why he's been given the name Marshmelo.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

La La is not a winner.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I thought he was given the name Marshmelo because you're an aspiring Skip Bayless?

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

He is mentally fragile and averse to winning because he decided to take an extra 40 mil. This is simply more sports talk psychobabble. I fail to see how you can connect the two.

_________________

I still think there's a chance long time guy is Melo.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I wish I had his bread but seriously there are a number of stupid things said on this board. It doesn't make me Carmelo Anthony to suggest that he would be stupid for taking 40 million more in money. The fact that I'm the only one arguing this says a lot about the people that posts here. Frankly I'm wondering about the overall intelligence of those that continue to question why a guy would essentially take the money and run. Why is that hard to believe. I never thought for a second that he would leave. I'm a Melo guy like his game didn't think he would leave unless the money was close it wasn't thus he stayed. He valued money over winning. Wouldn't be the first guy to do it. Lebron James will receive about the same amount of money from Cleveland as he would have from Miami yet he was just lauded for leaving 100 million on the table. Know one on this board has questioned it or the obvious flip flop of clutch to Marshmelo. What an incestuous little group we have here

_________________

Long time guy, Marshmelo said the Bulls offered him a 2year deal. The same deal LeBron got. He said NO to competing for a championship and making even more money after a new television deal. This after publicly stating winning was most important to him. He was lying. This proved to me that he's afraid of the pressure that comes with legitimately competing for a title.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Looking like Melo made a huge mistake signing long term with the Knicks. Unless of course he gets hurt or is about to drop off in production. Over 2.6 Billion a year in next TV deal and salaries are about to sky rocket.

_________________

He's an idiot or his advisers gave him terrible advice. He could have competed and possibly won a championship and then made 30-50% more than he signed for this year.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I think he only has 2-3 more yrs. of playing at a high level. There is a lot tread on those tires. In two yrs. its no guarantee that the Bulls are going to max him out. Lebron James situation is different on a few levels. 1. He is a better player. 2. Playing in his hometown insures that he will be paid after he is on the decline. The goodwill demonstrated by returning to Cleveland will by him an extra yr or two after he declines. Carmelo will not have that luxury. The Bulls can renege in two yrs where does that get him. This is his last big contract and he knows it. He will be 32 in a couple of yrs. He will have played thirteen yrs. in the league at that point. There is a possibility that he wouldn't get max money in two yrs. Also the players cannot renegotiate the cba until 2017 at which point he will be 33. He probably has missed his chance to win a ring by resigning with the Knicks the garbage about seeing what Phil is going to do is just that garbage. The Knicks are not going to make any noise anytime soon. He sacrificed winning for money and frankly its a decision a lot of players would have made.

_________________

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Jerry's word is good. He takes care of his people. I think the Bulls can win a title now but I would be willing to bet on it if Marshmelo was in a Bulls uniform. This is the 2nd time he's made a terrible decision when it comes to a contract. In the end he's the one that has to live with his decision. If the Bulls win a title in the next 2 years he's going to be kicking himself.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!