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Does this season officially tarnish Lebron's image?
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If you win, nobody gives a shit about your entourage. It's that simple.


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The players themselves voted him as someone you want to play with. Shall I believe the players speaking about themselves or shall I believe you speaking about the players?


Who voted him that? People who actually played with him? Or is it the perception that playing with him would be enjoyable?

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That's what you get with LeBron - everyone has known about this for over ten years. That fact that the organization became so toxic is on the incompeten duo of Magic and Pelinka. Miami didn't let the entourage stuff take the organization down and Cleveland more or less navigated it just fine. The difference is Miami and Cleveland were set up to win while LA was always an odd choice for LBJ. If they're in the finals right now then no one cares about this deadspin story. Again it's nothing new as far as LBJ is concerned but it does just underscore how bad magic is at anything other than basketball and maybe a few business ventures.
The fact that Miami and a quality organization like Cleveland could overcome what you "get with LeBron" does not help his legacy at all.

If LeBron has been like this his whole career then he is a terrible teammate.

Lebatard just said on his previous segment Pat Riley absolutely restricted and shut down the access of Lebron’s entourage.

Cleveland let it all happen.


That makes sense. He needed Riley and Miami to get him his first wins and show him how. After that he clearly seems to have changed some.


He's always had an entourage, even before Miami. Most mega stars do. Jordan had his people for a bit. The only one I can think of that didn't was Kobe.

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The players themselves voted him as someone you want to play with. Shall I believe the players speaking about themselves or shall I believe you speaking about the players?
Yet Kyrie couldn't wait to get away from him, Kevin Love was mistreated his whole time in Cleveland by LeBron, and the big time free agents seem to have no interest in playing with him.


Kyrie took that back this year. It was a big story. What is the source of Love being mistreated? Kevin Love is a world champion because of LBJ. I think he'll look back on his days with LBJ fondly.
Kyrie still wanted away from LeBron asap. He clearly didn't enjoy his time with him.

Kevin Love said there were "dark times" with Lebron. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/10/kevin-love-playing-with-lebron-james-dark-times

LeBron doesn't win in Cleveland without Love and Irving either so that is a pretty useless statement. It became obvious this year that LeBron isn't winning titles without two other great players.

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The players themselves voted him as someone you want to play with. Shall I believe the players speaking about themselves or shall I believe you speaking about the players?


Who voted him that? People who actually played with him? Or is it the perception that playing with him would be enjoyable?


There are other articles but more or less people like playing with LBJ. He isnt a cancer or even a Kobe Bryant.

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The spate of changes increased the workloads for several staff members -- and in one instance in 2017, a longtime female staffer was called into an office with Johnson and Pelinka after making a mistake, according to multiple staffers present and others familiar with the incident. The mistake, sources said, involved arranging a car service to the team's facility for a draft prospect.

"I don't stand for mistakes!" Johnson shouted at her. "I don't make mistakes."


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The players themselves voted him as someone you want to play with. Shall I believe the players speaking about themselves or shall I believe you speaking about the players?
Yet Kyrie couldn't wait to get away from him, Kevin Love was mistreated his whole time in Cleveland by LeBron, and the big time free agents seem to have no interest in playing with him.


Kyrie took that back this year. It was a big story. What is the source of Love being mistreated? Kevin Love is a world champion because of LBJ. I think he'll look back on his days with LBJ fondly.
Kyrie still wanted away from LeBron asap. He clearly didn't enjoy his time with him.

Kevin Love said there were "dark times" with Lebron. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/10/kevin-love-playing-with-lebron-james-dark-times

LeBron doesn't win in Cleveland without Love and Irving either so that is a pretty useless statement. It became obvious this year that LeBron isn't winning titles without two other great players.


I checked the story you posted and it quoted Love saying this:

"We won and we bonded and we’re going to continue this brotherhood.”"

What was your point again? It appears you don't have one on Love

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veganfan21 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
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veganfan21 wrote:
The players themselves voted him as someone you want to play with. Shall I believe the players speaking about themselves or shall I believe you speaking about the players?
Yet Kyrie couldn't wait to get away from him, Kevin Love was mistreated his whole time in Cleveland by LeBron, and the big time free agents seem to have no interest in playing with him.


Kyrie took that back this year. It was a big story. What is the source of Love being mistreated? Kevin Love is a world champion because of LBJ. I think he'll look back on his days with LBJ fondly.
Kyrie still wanted away from LeBron asap. He clearly didn't enjoy his time with him.

Kevin Love said there were "dark times" with Lebron. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/10/kevin-love-playing-with-lebron-james-dark-times

LeBron doesn't win in Cleveland without Love and Irving either so that is a pretty useless statement. It became obvious this year that LeBron isn't winning titles without two other great players.


I checked the story you posted and it quoted Love saying this:

"We won and we bonded and we’re going to continue this brotherhood.”"

What was your point again? It appears you don't have one on Love
My point was that Kevin Love did not seem to enjoy playing with LeBron James even if he enjoyed LeBron James gifting him a ring by LeBron winning it completely on his own and bringing him along for the ride.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The players themselves voted him as someone you want to play with. Shall I believe the players speaking about themselves or shall I believe you speaking about the players?
Yet Kyrie couldn't wait to get away from him, Kevin Love was mistreated his whole time in Cleveland by LeBron, and the big time free agents seem to have no interest in playing with him.


Kyrie took that back this year. It was a big story. What is the source of Love being mistreated? Kevin Love is a world champion because of LBJ. I think he'll look back on his days with LBJ fondly.
Kyrie still wanted away from LeBron asap. He clearly didn't enjoy his time with him.

Kevin Love said there were "dark times" with Lebron. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/10/kevin-love-playing-with-lebron-james-dark-times

LeBron doesn't win in Cleveland without Love and Irving either so that is a pretty useless statement. It became obvious this year that LeBron isn't winning titles without two other great players.


I checked the story you posted and it quoted Love saying this:

"We won and we bonded and we’re going to continue this brotherhood.”"

What was your point again? It appears you don't have one on Love
My point was that Kevin Love did not seem to enjoy playing with LeBron James even if he enjoyed LeBron James gifting him a ring by LeBron winning it completely on his own and bringing him along for the ride.

LeBron declaring himself the greatest is a giant picture window into his brain.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The players themselves voted him as someone you want to play with. Shall I believe the players speaking about themselves or shall I believe you speaking about the players?
Yet Kyrie couldn't wait to get away from him, Kevin Love was mistreated his whole time in Cleveland by LeBron, and the big time free agents seem to have no interest in playing with him.


Kyrie took that back this year. It was a big story. What is the source of Love being mistreated? Kevin Love is a world champion because of LBJ. I think he'll look back on his days with LBJ fondly.
Kyrie still wanted away from LeBron asap. He clearly didn't enjoy his time with him.

Kevin Love said there were "dark times" with Lebron. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/10/kevin-love-playing-with-lebron-james-dark-times

LeBron doesn't win in Cleveland without Love and Irving either so that is a pretty useless statement. It became obvious this year that LeBron isn't winning titles without two other great players.


I checked the story you posted and it quoted Love saying this:

"We won and we bonded and we’re going to continue this brotherhood.”"

What was your point again? It appears you don't have one on Love
My point was that Kevin Love did not seem to enjoy playing with LeBron James even if he enjoyed LeBron James gifting him a ring by LeBron winning it completely on his own and bringing him along for the ride.


He said they got over it and are fine? It's in the same story.

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He said they got over it and are fine? It's in the same story.
Chris Bosh and Kevin Love both talk about how bad it is at times playing with LeBron James. Kyrie Irving literally pushes his way out to get away from LeBron: Not proof of anything.
People who have never played with LeBron voted that they secretly wanted to play with him: Proof LeBron is a great teammate.

Keep in mind that is referencing Cleveland, who by your own ideas handled LeBron very well not like the stupid Lakers organization.

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Kevin Love had a mental breakdown and almost killed himself playing with LeBron and vegan still has the audacity to argue it was good for Love. smh

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LeBron has seemed like an petty and vindictive person for years now. Remember when he got the ESPN reporter fired because he did not kiss enough ass in a profile piece?

https://deadspin.com/espn-killed-that-l ... t-30884183

The coverage of "his" school was the worst. A tax payer funded shrine to LeBron was treated like he was the most selfless, caring athlete in the the world.

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He said they got over it and are fine? It's in the same story.
Chris Bosh and Kevin Love both talk about how bad it is at times playing with LeBron James. Kyrie Irving literally pushes his way out to get away from LeBron: Not proof of anything.
People who have never played with LeBron voted that they secretly wanted to play with him: Proof LeBron is a great teammate.

Keep in mind that is referencing Cleveland, who by your own ideas handled LeBron very well not like the stupid Lakers organization.


You're either being obtuse or just trolling. Kevin Love uses past tense to describe dark times with LBJ. He uses present tense to describe the current situation as good. At least LBJ is not assaulting people during the middle of practice as the supposed GOAT MJ did on at least two occasions that we know of.

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You're either being obtuse or just trolling. Kevin Love uses past tense to describe dark times with LBJ. He uses present tense to describe the current situation as good. At least LBJ is not assaulting people during the middle of practice as the supposed GOAT MJ did on at least two occasions that we know of.
I'm using his description about what it was like to be LeBron's teammate to describe what it was like to be LeBron James teammate. That is neither obtuse nor trolling. We know how he and his people have treated virtually everyone associated with the Lakers too. It is painting a picture of a pretty bad teammate.

Jordan may have been a bad teammate too. I'm sure plenty of his teammates didn't like him either. The thing is that people don't argue that MJ was a great teammate like they did for a long time with LeBron.

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He said they got over it and are fine? It's in the same story.
Chris Bosh and Kevin Love both talk about how bad it is at times playing with LeBron James. Kyrie Irving literally pushes his way out to get away from LeBron: Not proof of anything.
People who have never played with LeBron voted that they secretly wanted to play with him: Proof LeBron is a great teammate.

Keep in mind that is referencing Cleveland, who by your own ideas handled LeBron very well not like the stupid Lakers organization.


You're either being obtuse or just trolling. Kevin Love uses past tense to describe dark times with LBJ. He uses present tense to describe the current situation as good. At least LBJ is not assaulting people during the middle of practice as the supposed GOAT MJ did on at least two occasions that we know of.

You mean back when men were men?


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That's what you get with LeBron - everyone has known about this for over ten years. That fact that the organization became so toxic is on the incompeten duo of Magic and Pelinka. Miami didn't let the entourage stuff take the organization down and Cleveland more or less navigated it just fine. The difference is Miami and Cleveland were set up to win while LA was always an odd choice for LBJ. If they're in the finals right now then no one cares about this deadspin story. Again it's nothing new as far as LBJ is concerned but it does just underscore how bad magic is at anything other than basketball and maybe a few business ventures.


I still love the story of Riley telling Wade and LeBron to stfu after they tried to get rid of Spoelstra

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Hmm, didn't Deadspin always revel in LeBron and his squad of dopes making a hash of everything?

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I think Parkins would tear up if he read all of these negative stories about LeBron. Nevermind the greatest player in NBA history, he thinks LeBron is one of the greatest humans to have ever lived.


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The entourage off the court and him on the court are separate. He's by all accounts an exemplary teammate on the court. Off the court his entourage no doubt tries to influence or even supplant the front office. To that I'd say his entourage has done more for Cleveland basketball than anything all its front offices in recent history have ever done for that city. In other words, LeBron as GM has had a pretty good tenure. I'd rank him and his crew above the following front offices that some here want him to slavishly obey:

LBJ ran a better FO over the last decade than the following big market teams:

NY
Chicago
Philly
LAC
Houston

And then pretty much the rest of the league except for 2-3 other squads.

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The entourage off the court and him on the court are separate. He's by all accounts an exemplary teammate on the court. Off the court his entourage no doubt tries to influence or even supplant the front office. To that I'd say his entourage has done more for Cleveland basketball than anything all its front offices in recent history have ever done for that city. In other words, LeBron as GM has had a pretty good tenure. I'd rank him and his crew above the following front offices that some here want him to slavishly obey:

LBJ ran a better FO over the last decade than the following big market teams:

NY
Chicago
Philly
LAC
Houston

And then pretty much the rest of the league except for 2-3 other squads.
:lol:

LeBron as a GM sucks. He's a top ten talent of all time so it looks great. I'm going to guess Chicago could have won a single title with LeBron just as easily as Cleveland did.

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veganfan21 wrote:
The entourage off the court and him on the court are separate. He's by all accounts an exemplary teammate on the court. Off the court his entourage no doubt tries to influence or even supplant the front office. To that I'd say his entourage has done more for Cleveland basketball than anything all its front offices in recent history have ever done for that city. In other words, LeBron as GM has had a pretty good tenure. I'd rank him and his crew above the following front offices that some here want him to slavishly obey:

LBJ ran a better FO over the last decade than the following big market teams:

NY
Chicago
Philly
LAC
Houston

And then pretty much the rest of the league except for 2-3 other squads.
:lol:

LeBron as a GM sucks. He's a top ten talent of all time so it looks great. I'm going to guess Chicago could have won a single title with LeBron just as easily as Cleveland did.


What sucks about three rings? Can you tell me how many rings the revered Chicago, NY, Philly, and Boston franchises have combined to win during the past ten years?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
The entourage off the court and him on the court are separate. He's by all accounts an exemplary teammate on the court. Off the court his entourage no doubt tries to influence or even supplant the front office. To that I'd say his entourage has done more for Cleveland basketball than anything all its front offices in recent history have ever done for that city. In other words, LeBron as GM has had a pretty good tenure. I'd rank him and his crew above the following front offices that some here want him to slavishly obey:

LBJ ran a better FO over the last decade than the following big market teams:

NY
Chicago
Philly
LAC
Houston

And then pretty much the rest of the league except for 2-3 other squads.
:lol:

LeBron as a GM sucks. He's a top ten talent of all time so it looks great. I'm going to guess Chicago could have won a single title with LeBron just as easily as Cleveland did.


What sucks about three rings? Can you tell me how many rings the revered Chicago, NY, Philly, and Boston franchises have combined to win during the past ten years?

How do you rate LeBron as a player? That is your answer on why his post Miami career where he became GM is not impressive.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
The entourage off the court and him on the court are separate. He's by all accounts an exemplary teammate on the court. Off the court his entourage no doubt tries to influence or even supplant the front office. To that I'd say his entourage has done more for Cleveland basketball than anything all its front offices in recent history have ever done for that city. In other words, LeBron as GM has had a pretty good tenure. I'd rank him and his crew above the following front offices that some here want him to slavishly obey:

LBJ ran a better FO over the last decade than the following big market teams:

NY
Chicago
Philly
LAC
Houston

And then pretty much the rest of the league except for 2-3 other squads.
:lol:

LeBron as a GM sucks. He's a top ten talent of all time so it looks great. I'm going to guess Chicago could have won a single title with LeBron just as easily as Cleveland did.


What sucks about three rings? Can you tell me how many rings the revered Chicago, NY, Philly, and Boston franchises have combined to win during the past ten years?


LBJ was not the GM of the Heat. Riley was/is.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
The entourage off the court and him on the court are separate. He's by all accounts an exemplary teammate on the court. Off the court his entourage no doubt tries to influence or even supplant the front office. To that I'd say his entourage has done more for Cleveland basketball than anything all its front offices in recent history have ever done for that city. In other words, LeBron as GM has had a pretty good tenure. I'd rank him and his crew above the following front offices that some here want him to slavishly obey:

LBJ ran a better FO over the last decade than the following big market teams:

NY
Chicago
Philly
LAC
Houston

And then pretty much the rest of the league except for 2-3 other squads.
:lol:

LeBron as a GM sucks. He's a top ten talent of all time so it looks great. I'm going to guess Chicago could have won a single title with LeBron just as easily as Cleveland did.


What sucks about three rings? Can you tell me how many rings the revered Chicago, NY, Philly, and Boston franchises have combined to win during the past ten years?

How do you rate LeBron as a player? That is your answer on why his post Miami career where he became GM is not impressive.


The only GM more successful than LeBron after Miami is whoever runs GS.

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veganfan21 wrote:
The entourage off the court and him on the court are separate. He's by all accounts an exemplary teammate on the court. Off the court his entourage no doubt tries to influence or even supplant the front office. To that I'd say his entourage has done more for Cleveland basketball than anything all its front offices in recent history have ever done for that city. In other words, LeBron as GM has had a pretty good tenure. I'd rank him and his crew above the following front offices that some here want him to slavishly obey:

LBJ ran a better FO over the last decade than the following big market teams:

NY
Chicago
Philly
LAC
Houston

And then pretty much the rest of the league except for 2-3 other squads.
:lol:

LeBron as a GM sucks. He's a top ten talent of all time so it looks great. I'm going to guess Chicago could have won a single title with LeBron just as easily as Cleveland did.


What sucks about three rings? Can you tell me how many rings the revered Chicago, NY, Philly, and Boston franchises have combined to win during the past ten years?


LBJ was not the GM of the Heat. Riley was/is.


He did the same thing there he's trying to do now - recruit players. His entourage had less say in Miami but LBJ did recruit guys.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 5:28 pm 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
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The entourage off the court and him on the court are separate. He's by all accounts an exemplary teammate on the court. Off the court his entourage no doubt tries to influence or even supplant the front office. To that I'd say his entourage has done more for Cleveland basketball than anything all its front offices in recent history have ever done for that city. In other words, LeBron as GM has had a pretty good tenure. I'd rank him and his crew above the following front offices that some here want him to slavishly obey:

LBJ ran a better FO over the last decade than the following big market teams:

NY
Chicago
Philly
LAC
Houston

And then pretty much the rest of the league except for 2-3 other squads.
:lol:

LeBron as a GM sucks. He's a top ten talent of all time so it looks great. I'm going to guess Chicago could have won a single title with LeBron just as easily as Cleveland did.


What sucks about three rings? Can you tell me how many rings the revered Chicago, NY, Philly, and Boston franchises have combined to win during the past ten years?

How do you rate LeBron as a player? That is your answer on why his post Miami career where he became GM is not impressive.


The only GM more successful than LeBron after Miami is whoever runs GS.

How would you rate LeBron as a player? Greatest since Jordan?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
The entourage off the court and him on the court are separate. He's by all accounts an exemplary teammate on the court. Off the court his entourage no doubt tries to influence or even supplant the front office. To that I'd say his entourage has done more for Cleveland basketball than anything all its front offices in recent history have ever done for that city. In other words, LeBron as GM has had a pretty good tenure. I'd rank him and his crew above the following front offices that some here want him to slavishly obey:

LBJ ran a better FO over the last decade than the following big market teams:

NY
Chicago
Philly
LAC
Houston

And then pretty much the rest of the league except for 2-3 other squads.
:lol:

LeBron as a GM sucks. He's a top ten talent of all time so it looks great. I'm going to guess Chicago could have won a single title with LeBron just as easily as Cleveland did.


What sucks about three rings? Can you tell me how many rings the revered Chicago, NY, Philly, and Boston franchises have combined to win during the past ten years?

How do you rate LeBron as a player? That is your answer on why his post Miami career where he became GM is not impressive.


The only GM more successful than LeBron after Miami is whoever runs GS.

How would you rate LeBron as a player? Greatest since Jordan?


Why is it relevant? Jordan is more successful but LBJ is more talented.

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It is relevant because LeBron is the GM of a guy with more talent than Jordan and won 2 rings with 2 or 3 other hall of famers in Miami and then 1 in Cleveland. He was better than the Knicks though!

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It is relevant because LeBron is the GM of a guy with more talent than Jordan and won 2 rings with 2 or 3 other hall of famers in Miami and then 1 in Cleveland. He was better than the Knicks though!


You're saying he sucks as GM, I'm saying he's been excellent. To evidence this I pointed out that there are only 1-2 GMs with as much or more success than LBJ over the past ten years. Your rebuttal of my point is to say what exactly?

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