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Kyrie out for the year , so much for the Mavs hopes

:lol: :lol:

Both of LTG's guys suck


Because of injuries? That's terrible even by your "standards"

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Because of injuries? That's terrible even by your "standards"

Street Clothes lasted about a half of a basketball game.


And yet still has participated in about 10-15 more games than Luka this season. He also played in more games last season too.

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How gullible do you have to be in order to believe that Minnesota was offered Luka, turned it down and still believe that people are lying when the story was released?
How would it be gullible to not believe an obvious piece of propaganda?

In your timeline, that you totally believe, Dallas talked to MN in mid-January. Nobody said a word about this conversation until almost March, weeks after the trade was consummated, weeks after the Mavs said they didn’t shop him around, and weeks after the entire basketball roasted arguably the dumbest trade in the history of the sport?

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How gullible do you have to be in order to believe that Minnesota was offered Luka, turned it down and still believe that people are lying when the story was released?
How would it be gullible to not believe an obvious piece of propaganda?

In your timeline, that you totally believe, Dallas talked to MN in mid-January. Nobody said a word about this conversation until almost March, weeks after the trade was consummated, weeks after the Mavs said they didn’t shop him around, and weeks after the entire basketball roasted arguably the dumbest trade in the history of the sport?

This is nowhere near the dumbest trade in the history of the sport. Social media claptrap.
It's certainly plausible that Minnesota was offered Doncic and simply declined. It's not exactly the first time in history that trade offers were made and you didn't know about it.

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How gullible do you have to be in order to believe that Minnesota was offered Luka, turned it down and still believe that people are lying when the story was released?
How would it be gullible to not believe an obvious piece of propaganda?

In your timeline, that you totally believe, Dallas talked to MN in mid-January. Nobody said a word about this conversation until almost March, weeks after the trade was consummated, weeks after the Mavs said they didn’t shop him around, and weeks after the entire basketball roasted arguably the dumbest trade in the history of the sport?

This is nowhere near the dumbest trade in the history of the sport.

It probably is. There's been draft day trades that have ended up really lopsided but that's mostly hindsight analysis. No player with Luka's combination of age and accolades has ever been traded in league history before. It's without a doubt the worst NBA trade of the last 25 years, and most likely ever.

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Just throwing this out but wasn't Wilt Chamberlain also traded to the Lakers?

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FavreFan wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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How gullible do you have to be in order to believe that Minnesota was offered Luka, turned it down and still believe that people are lying when the story was released?
How would it be gullible to not believe an obvious piece of propaganda?

In your timeline, that you totally believe, Dallas talked to MN in mid-January. Nobody said a word about this conversation until almost March, weeks after the trade was consummated, weeks after the Mavs said they didn’t shop him around, and weeks after the entire basketball roasted arguably the dumbest trade in the history of the sport?

This is nowhere near the dumbest trade in the history of the sport.

It probably is. There's been draft day trades that have ended up really lopsided but that's mostly hindsight analysis. No player with Luka's combination of age and accolades has ever been traded in league history before. It's without a doubt the worst NBA trade of the last 25 years, and most likely ever.


Anthony Davis is currently a better player than Luka Doncic. And has already been the best player on a championship team. Albeit the bubble.
The only thing which makes it questionable is Luka's age relative to AD's. But for the next 2-3 years AD is no doubt the better player.

You cannot get targeted by Boston and dominated by the likes of Jaylen Brown and still proclaim to be that dude

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As shitty as the Bulls are, you can get 13-1 for them to make the playoffs—which would only require them to win two play-in games against mediocre teams. Might be worth a bet.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
How gullible do you have to be in order to believe that Minnesota was offered Luka, turned it down and still believe that people are lying when the story was released?
How would it be gullible to not believe an obvious piece of propaganda?

In your timeline, that you totally believe, Dallas talked to MN in mid-January. Nobody said a word about this conversation until almost March, weeks after the trade was consummated, weeks after the Mavs said they didn’t shop him around, and weeks after the entire basketball roasted arguably the dumbest trade in the history of the sport?

This is nowhere near the dumbest trade in the history of the sport.

It probably is. There's been draft day trades that have ended up really lopsided but that's mostly hindsight analysis. No player with Luka's combination of age and accolades has ever been traded in league history before. It's without a doubt the worst NBA trade of the last 25 years, and most likely ever.


Anthony Davis is currently a better player than Luka Doncic.

Just obviously wrong. There's a reason the Lakers have looked better with Luka than at any point with AD the last 3 seasons.

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Anthony Davis is currently a better player than Luka Doncic.

Anthony Davis is currently wearing street clothes for the rest of this sesson.

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FavreFan wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
How gullible do you have to be in order to believe that Minnesota was offered Luka, turned it down and still believe that people are lying when the story was released?
How would it be gullible to not believe an obvious piece of propaganda?

In your timeline, that you totally believe, Dallas talked to MN in mid-January. Nobody said a word about this conversation until almost March, weeks after the trade was consummated, weeks after the Mavs said they didn’t shop him around, and weeks after the entire basketball roasted arguably the dumbest trade in the history of the sport?

This is nowhere near the dumbest trade in the history of the sport.

It probably is. There's been draft day trades that have ended up really lopsided but that's mostly hindsight analysis. No player with Luka's combination of age and accolades has ever been traded in league history before. It's without a doubt the worst NBA trade of the last 25 years, and most likely ever.


Anthony Davis is currently a better player than Luka Doncic.

Just obviously wrong. There's a reason the Lakers have looked better with Luka than at any point with AD the last 3 seasons.

I'll push back a little. The improvement this year has been on the defensive side. Luka is a Trae-like figure. It's up to JJ to get him to at least try at that end. It's not a secret that the Mavs did not like the not trying.


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Luka is a Trae like figure insofar as they’re both professional basketball players.

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Luka is a Trae like figure insofar as they’re both professional basketball players.

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FavreFan wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
How gullible do you have to be in order to believe that Minnesota was offered Luka, turned it down and still believe that people are lying when the story was released?
How would it be gullible to not believe an obvious piece of propaganda?

In your timeline, that you totally believe, Dallas talked to MN in mid-January. Nobody said a word about this conversation until almost March, weeks after the trade was consummated, weeks after the Mavs said they didn’t shop him around, and weeks after the entire basketball roasted arguably the dumbest trade in the history of the sport?

This is nowhere near the dumbest trade in the history of the sport.

It probably is. There's been draft day trades that have ended up really lopsided but that's mostly hindsight analysis. No player with Luka's combination of age and accolades has ever been traded in league history before. It's without a doubt the worst NBA trade of the last 25 years, and most likely ever.


Anthony Davis is currently a better player than Luka Doncic.

Just obviously wrong. There's a reason the Lakers have looked better with Luka than at any point with AD the last 3 seasons.

They made it to the Conf Finals 2 seasons ago with AD as their best player. And actually posted a solid record last season even when Lebron didn't play and AD did. I will wait until the playoffs to pass judgment on whether they are better with Luka than AD.

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Luka is a Trae like figure insofar as they’re both professional basketball players.

Yeah I think thats about where the comparison ends

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They made it to the Conf Finals 2 seasons ago with AD as their best player. And actually posted a solid record last season even when Lebron didn't play and AD did. I will wait until the playoffs to pass judgment on whether they are better with Luka than AD.

You’re comparing AD getting his team to the WCF two years ago to a guy who got his team to the Finals last year.

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They made it to the Conf Finals 2 seasons ago with AD as their best player. And actually posted a solid record last season even when Lebron didn't play and AD did. I will wait until the playoffs to pass judgment on whether they are better with Luka than AD.

You’re comparing AD getting his team to the WCF two years ago to a guy who got his team to the Finals last year.

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add me to the list (previously stated) of people that don't believe in Luka, certainly long term but even for this season.

However, I think the NBA very much wants to see Lebron in the Finals one last time. So all bets are (literally) off.

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They made it to the Conf Finals 2 seasons ago with AD as their best player. And actually posted a solid record last season even when Lebron didn't play and AD did. I will wait until the playoffs to pass judgment on whether they are better with Luka than AD.

You’re comparing AD getting his team to the WCF two years ago to a guy who got his team to the Finals last year.


AD actually has a ring as the best player on his team And anyone who saw AD hook it up with the Joker in 2 consecutive playoffs knows that he is the better player.

Luka's Defensive deficiencies in the Finals were a major liability no matter how much you try and spin it now. And he hardly had to "put them on his back" either as Kyrie was there to contribute and mightily

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They made it to the Conf Finals 2 seasons ago with AD as their best player. And actually posted a solid record last season even when Lebron didn't play and AD did. I will wait until the playoffs to pass judgment on whether they are better with Luka than AD.

You’re comparing AD getting his team to the WCF two years ago to a guy who got his team to the Finals last year.


AD actually has a ring as the best player on his team And anyone who saw AD hook it up with the Joker in 2 consecutive playoffs knows that he is the better player.

Luka's Defensive deficiencies in the Finals were a major liability no matter how much you try and spin it now. And he hardly had to "put them on his back" either as Kyrie was there to contribute and mightily

You’re very focused on defense, which is fine. I’m not saying that’s wrong but ultimately teams need guys who can score. If your best player does most his work on defense, you’re probably not a very good team.

I said at the time he’s a huge liability defensively; not trying to spin anything. He’s low effort and complains his way through defensive possessions.

That said, he definitely put them on his back offensively no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise. There’s a reason he’s a 5 time 1st team all NBA player who got to a finals by age 25. Last year’s Mavs probably wouldn’t have been a playoff team without Luka.

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Also, AD is definitively not a better player than Jokic. Better defender, sure.

The only time the Lakers got past Jokic was when they were able to throw Dwight Howard at him so that AD didn’t have to use all his effort on defense.

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They made it to the Conf Finals 2 seasons ago with AD as their best player. And actually posted a solid record last season even when Lebron didn't play and AD did. I will wait until the playoffs to pass judgment on whether they are better with Luka than AD.

You’re comparing AD getting his team to the WCF two years ago to a guy who got his team to the Finals last year.


AD actually has a ring as the best player on his team And anyone who saw AD hook it up with the Joker in 2 consecutive playoffs knows that he is the better player.

Luka's Defensive deficiencies in the Finals were a major liability no matter how much you try and spin it now. And he hardly had to "put them on his back" either as Kyrie was there to contribute and mightily


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They made it to the Conf Finals 2 seasons ago with AD as their best player. And actually posted a solid record last season even when Lebron didn't play and AD did. I will wait until the playoffs to pass judgment on whether they are better with Luka than AD.

You’re comparing AD getting his team to the WCF two years ago to a guy who got his team to the Finals last year.


AD actually has a ring as the best player on his team And anyone who saw AD hook it up with the Joker in 2 consecutive playoffs knows that he is the better player.

Luka's Defensive deficiencies in the Finals were a major liability no matter how much you try and spin it now. And he hardly had to "put them on his back" either as Kyrie was there to contribute and mightily

You’re very focused on defense, which is fine. I’m not saying that’s wrong but ultimately teams need guys who can score. If your best player does most his work on defense, you’re probably not a very good team.

I said at the time he’s a huge liability defensively; not trying to spin anything. He’s low effort and complains his way through defensive possessions.

That said, he definitely put them on his back offensively no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise. There’s a reason he’s a 5 time 1st team all NBA player who got to a finals by age 25. Last year’s Mavs probably wouldn’t have been a playoff team without Luka.


His Defense was a major liability. They openly targeted him in the Boston series. Which means that he was a huge liability. Anthony Davis is an NBA Hall Of Famer. Currently a top 5 player and you are acting as if he Robert Williams.

And no he didn't put them on his back last year. Kyrie Irving's playoff numbers alone will validate that. His game validates that he is one of the most gifted offensive players the game has ever seen. You cannot be as non competitive as hLuka happens to be on D and win anything.

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His Defense was a major liability. They openly targeted him in the Boston series. Which means that he was a huge liability. Anthony Davis is an NBA Hall Of Famer. Currently a top 5 player and you are acting as if he Robert Williams.

And no he didn't put them on his back last year. Kyrie Irving's playoff numbers alone will validate that. His game validates that he is one of the most gifted offensive players the game has ever seen. You cannot be as non competitive as hLuka happens to be on D and win anything.

He was bad on defense in the finals. The entire Mavs team was bad in the finals. Check my posts from the finals and find one where I defend his defense. He wasn’t great on offense either, but it was clear what Boston was doing in terms of trying to wear him down. They’d guard him full court with multiple guys because nobody else on the team could score.

Kyrie is very good and they wouldn’t have been in the finals without him. But I don’t know how you give AD more credit on a team with LeBron than you do Luka playing with Kyrie.

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It isn't that he's a defensive liability. He doesn't even try.

The Bulls biggest liability was Pax. That guy tried his ass off. The only thing he ever did was stay between his guy and the bucket and he saved some easy scores from the talented. A bucket here, a bucket there. A technical now and then by screaming "I had position."

Not trying frosts my ass. That's it. I'm not denying it's a bad trade. But a championship is all hands on deck. Luka absolutely proved he wasn't on the deck. Maybe in the future he will be.


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His Defense was a major liability. They openly targeted him in the Boston series. Which means that he was a huge liability. Anthony Davis is an NBA Hall Of Famer. Currently a top 5 player and you are acting as if he Robert Williams.

And no he didn't put them on his back last year. Kyrie Irving's playoff numbers alone will validate that. His game validates that he is one of the most gifted offensive players the game has ever seen. You cannot be as non competitive as hLuka happens to be on D and win anything.

He was bad on defense in the finals. The entire Mavs team was bad in the finals. Check my posts from the finals and find one where I defend his defense. He wasn’t great on offense either, but it was clear what Boston was doing in terms of trying to wear him down. They’d guard him full court with multiple guys because nobody else on the team could score.

Kyrie is very good and they wouldn’t have been in the finals without him. But I don’t know how you give AD more credit on a team with LeBron than you do Luka playing with Kyrie.


AD plays defense. Luka doesn't and neither does Lebron. I don't have a lot of faith in the ability of 2 ball stoppers that cannot guard a stop sign. You do. Playoffs will tell the tale I guess.

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His Defense was a major liability. They openly targeted him in the Boston series. Which means that he was a huge liability. Anthony Davis is an NBA Hall Of Famer. Currently a top 5 player and you are acting as if he Robert Williams.

And no he didn't put them on his back last year. Kyrie Irving's playoff numbers alone will validate that. His game validates that he is one of the most gifted offensive players the game has ever seen. You cannot be as non competitive as hLuka happens to be on D and win anything.

He was bad on defense in the finals. The entire Mavs team was bad in the finals. Check my posts from the finals and find one where I defend his defense. He wasn’t great on offense either, but it was clear what Boston was doing in terms of trying to wear him down. They’d guard him full court with multiple guys because nobody else on the team could score.

Kyrie is very good and they wouldn’t have been in the finals without him. But I don’t know how you give AD more credit on a team with LeBron than you do Luka playing with Kyrie.

5 on 4 also makes for bad team defense.


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They made it to the Conf Finals 2 seasons ago with AD as their best player. And actually posted a solid record last season even when Lebron didn't play and AD did. I will wait until the playoffs to pass judgment on whether they are better with Luka than AD.

You’re comparing AD getting his team to the WCF two years ago to a guy who got his team to the Finals last year.


AD actually has a ring as the best player on his team And anyone who saw AD hook it up with the Joker in 2 consecutive playoffs knows that he is the better player.

:lol: :lol:

Jokic dominated AD in every matchup that's why the Nuggets have eliminated the Lakers 3 years in a row in the playoffs. Just ask Jeanie Buss:

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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They made it to the Conf Finals 2 seasons ago with AD as their best player. And actually posted a solid record last season even when Lebron didn't play and AD did. I will wait until the playoffs to pass judgment on whether they are better with Luka than AD.

You’re comparing AD getting his team to the WCF two years ago to a guy who got his team to the Finals last year.


AD actually has a ring as the best player on his team And anyone who saw AD hook it up with the Joker in 2 consecutive playoffs knows that he is the better player.

:lol: :lol:

Jokic dominated AD in every matchup that's why the Nuggets have eliminated the Lakers 3 years in a row in the playoffs. Just ask Jeanie Buss:

Spoken like someone that didn't watch the series in any of those years :lol: :lol:

AD stat line in 2024 series against the Joker.
28 pts 16 rebounds per game. And elite defense for good measure. But hey he's the reason they lost.

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