billypootons wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
You said the problem with Thibs is that his teams are "worn down" when it really matters. So you think if the Bulls had been better rested prior to the Miami series they would have beaten the Heat and gone on to an NBA title? Just how much of a factor was "fatigue" in that series? Your argument is utterly absurd.
The Knicks were up 2 games to 1 against the Celtics and were winning game 4 by 9 points with two minutes remaining when Tatum got injured. Are you saying the Celtics would have come back to win that game even though they were being badly outplayed in the second half, as they had been in the first two games of the series despite the Knicks struggles with "fatigue"?
Again, your position is laughable.
Your points about the Pacers series, his career as an assistant coach (truly bizarre, by the way) and Minnesota have absolutely nothing to do with your original contention that Thibs' teams struggle with fatigue in the playoffs. I'll take your attempt to move the goalposts here as an admission of defeat.
so he's just a great coach who's never had a roster good enough to win a title?
why hasnt he been hired to a team that has a roster that can win a title then? he's been around forever now someone should be able to recognize he's an elite coach that can win with a title ready roster.
Your point is bullshit. This isn't college basketball where a coach can pack their bags any given offseason and jump on a plane to the next town. It's all about timing and luck.
Just look back at history. Summer of 2010 --- the Bulls, Hawks, Clippers, Hornets, 76ers, Cavaliers, and the Nets all needed a new coach. Thibs went to the Bulls. Chicago was the best team and had the most promising future out of those 7. Remember this is a year before the Clippers pulled off the Chris Paul trade. Guess who the Clippers settled with in 2010? Vinny Del Negro.
Summer of 2015 --- the Thunder, Nuggets, Pelicans, Magic, and the Kings all had openings.
The only team Thibs would have or should have gone to is OKC. I guess Sam Presti and Billy Donovan had a tight relationship going back to who knows when. My theory is Presti chose Donovan because of their relationship but also because he was an accomplished coach who would have been ready for a rebuild and would stay course with young guys if Durant decided to leave the next summer, which obviously happened.
So Thibs got paid to stay home and watch basketball for the 2015-2016 season.
Summer of 2016 --- the Rockets, Timberwolves, Nets, Pacers, Lakers, Grizzlies, Knicks, Magic, Kings, and Wizards all had open jobs.
The Rockets hired Mike D'Antoni. Keep in mind, this is one summer before the Rockets traded for Chris Paul. The Timberwolves had a young core of Wiggins, Towns, and LaVine. Thibs not only got the coaching gig but was also named President of Basketball Operations. That's ultimately what he was looking for --- control.
Summer of 2020 --- the Clippers, Knicks, Bulls, Nets, Cavs, Rockets, Pacers, Clippers, Lakers, Grizzlies, Timberwolves, Pelicans, Thunder, 76ers, Suns, and Kings all had openings. The Clippers hired Tyronn Lue, who had already been a lead assistant on Doc Rivers' staff.
Based on everything above, it's all about timing and luck. Again, this isn't college football or college basketball where coaches can roam freely.
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