Yes. Good offense always can beat good defense. Gobert is 7'3. He should be able to shoot over Draemond Green and score with no problem Green is a position defender against guys his size. He isn't a shot blocker. No way in he'll that he can guard a skilled 7 footer. That is the problem. Not enough skilled 7 footers in the league. That is why he can get away with playing the 5 so much. More an indictment on post players than it is an endorsement of his defensive abilities.

Explain Bill Russell

4 other Hall of Famers who could score like motherfuckers.

Put Draymond in any era of NBA basketball and he's a top 5 defensive player in the league.

Yeah, he might not be able to guard Shaq but what the fuck, nobody could. Goebert isn't an offensive player. Draymond would just destroy him one on one on the block.

You're thinking about height too much. Draymond is incredibly strong, and has textbook footwork and hands, and length superior to his height. And yes, of course he's a shot blocker. This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say everyone on here underrates him. It's outrageous to suggest any 7 footer should be able to score on him.

I can see why people would say "why don't the Wizards post up on the 5 foot 9 guy?". It's insane to suggest "Why doesn't Utah post up the DPOY and one of the best defensive forwards of the past 20 years?"

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I understand the argument for more three point shooting and also get "some" of the reasons why play has changed since the early 90's. Still though I cannot grasp why it is completely impossible for teams to see that there still can be a place for a Kareem type player.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I agree and I still believe that is the best style to play. Game should still played inside out. There aren't that many good low post players for whatever reason and because that they can get away with small ball garbage.

It is hard to find as I have little time for the research project but his skyhook had to be close to 60% FGP.

No he isnt. I could name a number of guys from the 80''s and 90''s that were better defenders. He benefits by playing against PFs and Centers that don't have low post games. Not knocking his hustle but I don't see him as a lock down guy as much as I see him as a good team defender. His individual D isn't as great as you keep portraying. Iggy is better one on one and so is Klay Thompson. Those are just two guys on his own team.

Tony Allen was better Leonard is better so is Avery Bradley. You are drastically over rating Green.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Put Draymond in any era of NBA basketball and he's a top 5 defensive player in the league.

Yeah, he might not be able to guard Shaq but what the fuck, nobody could. Goebert isn't an offensive player. Draymond would just destroy him one on one on the block.

You're thinking about height too much. Draymond is incredibly strong, and has textbook footwork and hands, and length superior to his height. And yes, of course he's a shot blocker. This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say everyone on here underrates him. It's outrageous to suggest any 7 footer should be able to score on him.

I can see why people would say "why don't the Wizards post up on the 5 foot 9 guy?". It's insane to suggest "Why doesn't Utah post up the DPOY and one of the best defensive forwards of the past 20 years?"

Really

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Who is Draymond better than out of those 5 defenders?

Payton. He's much more versatile. Probably Hakeem too.

If you guys want to say Draymond is overrated because he sucks on offense I disagree but fine. It's crazy though that so many of you act like he's overrated defensively. Zeph posted some of the advanced stuff but he's clearly building an all time great defensive resume once he adds DPOY this year.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Payton. He's much more versatile. Probably Hakeem too.

If you guys want to say Draymond is overrated because he sucks on offense I disagree but fine. It's crazy though that so many of you act like he's overrated defensively. Zeph posted some of the advanced stuff but he's clearly building an all time great defensive resume once he adds DPOY this year.

Who is Draymond better than out of those 5 defenders?

Draymond Green is legit but better than Hakeem on defense? Hakeem emasculated David Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, etc. Green's toughest competition is probably Blake Griffin, whose major accomplishment is jumping over a mid-size sedan.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Draymond Green is legit but better than Hakeem on defense? Hakeem emasculated David Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, etc. Green's toughest competition is probably Blake Griffin, whose major accomplishment is jumping over a mid-size sedan.

That is a good point. Who exactly does Green shut down in the league?

It's almost laughable how unskilled a number of modern day "elite" centers are. Watching Jazz Warriors. Gobert can't score unless it's an alley oop play.

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Everybody he guards.

And this era is filled with good players as well.

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Not big men.

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Maybe, but if a team could find a big man who was dominant, it would be a huge game changer. It's a market inefficiency, if you will.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

I don't think so. It's hard to find a guy who can put up much better numbers than Anthony Davis has. Hasn't helped his team a whole lot. You need great guard play to compete today.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

So you think Draymond could check the big men from that era as well as Rodman, Hakeem? No way in the world

Payton, Jordan, and Pippen could do just fine playing D in todays league.

I just cannot believe some of the things I read around here. I am starting to feel like Walt

So if a team had Hakeem in todays NBA he would not help his team be really good?