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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:54 pm 
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All-time: Iverson


Apparently, he can't pay his bills too.

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/20 ... ncial-woes

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Snow's Win Share Per 48 Minutes was above the league average in the 2000-2001 season. However, these are the same kind of stats that claimed Randy Wells was a good starter for the Cubs, so I guess I'm not convinced either way.

I always thought Iverson's horrendous FG% was detrimental to his team's success. Sure, he would average 30 PPG, but when you are hitting less than 40% of your shots, there would seem to be better options.

I realize Eric Snow played decent D but my god his shot was ugly as hell. He made Chris Duhon look like Mitch Richmond

Wasn't Larry Hughes also on that team? Good god, how did they ever make the finals?

Well, when the Raptors and Bucks are the next top two contenders for the East...

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All-time: Iverson

Yes, because he had SO many other scoring options on that 2001 Finals team. :roll:


yes, a stellar supporting cast including aaron mckie, tyrone hill, and raja bell.

although i did like jumaine jones. and mutombo. and the great white hype todd "double d" macculloch.


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Eric Gordon -- This whiny bitch didn't like getting traded to the hornets so he turned down their extension offer and decided to milk a sore knee into sitting out the entire season.


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Eric Gordon -- This whiny bitch didn't like getting traded to the hornets so he turned down their extension offer and decided to milk a sore knee into sitting out the entire season.


I'm so glad the NBA decided to intervene and make sure the Hornets got the best deal possible for Paul. That Wolves draft pick should be great too


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Eric Gordon -- This whiny bitch didn't like getting traded to the hornets so he turned down their extension offer and decided to milk a sore knee into sitting out the entire season.

How do you know he's milking the sore knee?

And why would he accept an extension? He might be the third best SG in the league right now, he's 22, and the Hornets roster and ownership is a complete train wreck right now. It's not even like he came up with the Hornets. He owes them nothing.

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Eric Gordon -- This whiny bitch didn't like getting traded to the hornets so he turned down their extension offer and decided to milk a sore knee into sitting out the entire season.

How do you know he's milking the sore knee?


Sits out for 6 weeks before deciding he needs athroscopic surgery so he will miss another six weeks. Wreaks of just not wanting to play for New Orleans at all. If he was still on the Clips, he would be trying to play. Sore knees do not cause people to miss an entire season.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
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Eric Gordon -- This whiny bitch didn't like getting traded to the hornets so he turned down their extension offer and decided to milk a sore knee into sitting out the entire season.

How do you know he's milking the sore knee?


Sits out for 6 weeks before deciding he needs athroscopic surgery so he will miss another six weeks. Wreaks of just not wanting to play for New Orleans at all. If he was still on the Clips, he would be trying to play. Sore knees do not cause people to miss an entire season.

But the Clippers can do something this season. Knees are pretty fragile for NBA players, just ask Antonio Mcdyess. Why would he risk further injury when he becomes a UFA this summer and will get a $60,000,000 payday and a chance to play for a winning team and one that actually has an owner and fans that go to the stadium?

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But the Clippers can do something this season. Knees are pretty fragile for NBA players, just ask Antonio Mcdyess. Why would he risk further injury when he becomes a UFA this summer and will get a $60,000,000 payday and a chance to play for a winning team and one that actually has an owner and fans that go to the stadium?


Any team that gives him that much money is an idiot. The guy can hardly stay healthy enough to play 75% of the games a season. Plus, now he has "knee problems".


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Why would he risk further injury when he becomes a UFA this summer and will get a $60,000,000 payday and a chance to play for a winning team and one that actually has an owner and fans that go to the stadium?

Won't Gordon be a RFA this summer? This is only his third year in the league I think. I'm pretty sure New Orleans will match any offer out there.

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Why would he risk further injury when he becomes a UFA this summer and will get a $60,000,000 payday and a chance to play for a winning team and one that actually has an owner and fans that go to the stadium?

Won't Gordon be a RFA this summer? This is only his third year in the league I think. I'm pretty sure New Orleans will match any offer out there.

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But the Clippers can do something this season. Knees are pretty fragile for NBA players, just ask Antonio Mcdyess. Why would he risk further injury when he becomes a UFA this summer and will get a $60,000,000 payday and a chance to play for a winning team and one that actually has an owner and fans that go to the stadium?


Any team that gives him that much money is an idiot. The guy can hardly stay healthy enough to play 75% of the games a season. Plus, now he has "knee problems".

There's been dozens of guys that have missed 20-30 game a couple times in their first few seasons and went on to be fine. What kind of contract do you think he deserves? Considering how thin the SG position is and the contract Afflalo just received, Gordon is worth pretty close to $60 mil.

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to be fair , if he is sitting out to avoid risk of further injury to keep his value on the free ajent market- isn't that kind of selfish??


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to be fair , if he is sitting out to avoid risk of further injury to keep his value on the free ajent market- isn't that kind of selfish??

Yeah it is but I'd also say a little justifiable given how exceptionally fucked up the Hornets situation is. Also we don't know for sure if he was able to play without the surgery or not.

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But the Clippers can do something this season. Knees are pretty fragile for NBA players, just ask Antonio Mcdyess. Why would he risk further injury when he becomes a UFA this summer and will get a $60,000,000 payday and a chance to play for a winning team and one that actually has an owner and fans that go to the stadium?


Any team that gives him that much money is an idiot. The guy can hardly stay healthy enough to play 75% of the games a season. Plus, now he has "knee problems".

There's been dozens of guys that have missed 20-30 game a couple times in their first few seasons and went on to be fine. What kind of contract do you think he deserves? Considering how thin the SG position is and the contract Afflalo just received, Gordon is worth pretty close to $60 mil.


Someone will probably pay him that much money. I am of the opinion that he is overrated. With the new salary cap, I'm not sure how many top level teams can afford to give him a big contract. He may end up on a shit team anyways.


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I guess we'll see how it plays out over the next few years. I think you can build a championship team around Gordon as one of your top 2 players if he continues to improve at the rate he has. He's as versatile a scorer as Carmelo(a pretty rare asset in the NBA), but not a black hole like Melo. His all-around game was coming together pretty well last season.

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I guess we'll see how it plays out over the next few years. I think you can build a championship team around Gordon as one of your top 2 players if he continues to improve at the rate he has. He's as versatile a scorer as Carmelo(a pretty rare asset in the NBA), but not a black hole like Melo. His all-around game was coming together pretty well last season.


Rick, might want to save this in your stash for down the road.. :wink:

i don't really agree with that


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I guess we'll see how it plays out over the next few years. I think you can build a championship team around Gordon as one of your top 2 players if he continues to improve at the rate he has. He's as versatile a scorer as Carmelo(a pretty rare asset in the NBA), but not a black hole like Melo. His all-around game was coming together pretty well last season.


Rick, might want to save this in your stash for down the road.. :wink:

i don't really agree with that

The 2nd best player on last year's championship team was either JET or Chandler. You dont think he can be that good?

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I guess we'll see how it plays out over the next few years. I think you can build a championship team around Gordon as one of your top 2 players if he continues to improve at the rate he has. He's as versatile a scorer as Carmelo(a pretty rare asset in the NBA), but not a black hole like Melo. His all-around game was coming together pretty well last season.


Rick, might want to save this in your stash for down the road.. :wink:

i don't really agree with that

The 2nd best player on last year's championship team was either JET or Chandler. You dont think he can be that good?


I suppose so, but that was a fairly deep/veteran team
before that (Lakers) i don't think he'll be better than Gasol
before that (Celtics), i don't think he'll be better than Garnett or Allen
and before that (Spurs) i don't think he'll be better than Parker or Ginoboli


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I guess we'll see how it plays out over the next few years. I think you can build a championship team around Gordon as one of your top 2 players if he continues to improve at the rate he has. He's as versatile a scorer as Carmelo(a pretty rare asset in the NBA), but not a black hole like Melo. His all-around game was coming together pretty well last season.


Rick, might want to save this in your stash for down the road.. :wink:

i don't really agree with that

The 2nd best player on last year's championship team was either JET or Chandler. You dont think he can be that good?


Gilbert Arenas was that good, but you can't win with Gilbert Arenas.


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Well I also think he can average 26-28 ppg with a high TS%, so if I'm wrong about one I'm most likely wrong about the other.

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Well I also think he can average 26-28 ppg with a high TS%, so if I'm wrong about one I'm most likely wrong about the other.


wow

i think he's solid but i can't see him ever averaging 26-28ppg over a season

my feeling is he'll top out around 22-24 . his high is 22 last year. plus, as much as I hate to agree with BC, the injury situation is certainly cause for concern, this year obviously. last year playing 56 games, year before 62. only his rookie year did he play pretty much the entire year


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Well I also think he can average 26-28 ppg with a high TS%, so if I'm wrong about one I'm most likely wrong about the other.


wow

i think he's solid but i can't see him ever averaging 26-28ppg over a season

my feeling is he'll top out around 22-24 . his high is 22 last year. plus, as much as I hate to agree with BC, the injury situation is certainly cause for concern, this year obviously. last year playing 56 games, year before 62. only his rookie year did he play pretty much the entire year

I can see injuries derailing his career. But if they don't I don't think my prediction is that crazy really. He jumped from 16 to 22 ppg in his 2nd to 3rd year in the league and considering he just turned 23 I don't see why he wouldn't continually improve the next couple seasons if healthy. Obviously that's a big if.

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