Yeah, I agree. Something tells me that the 92 team doesn't have much of a problem bringing the ball up the court against CP and Co.


edit: Ok, I disagree on Mullin.

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My take.

PG - 2012
SG - 1992
SF - 2012
PF - 1992
C - 1992
Bench - Even

It'd be a close game, but the Dream Team would win IMO.

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I think it would be difficult with Paul, Kobe, LeBron, Iggy in the lanes.

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That's pretty much how I see it. In a close game I'd take Jordan every time. That's really the only difference.

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If you take Jordan every time then how can you say that Kobe is probably right?

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I shouldn't have said that. Overreaction based on what I perceived to be a ridiculous reaction to his comments by you. If I had to bet money I would take the 1992 team but I wouldn't feel comfortable putting money on either team with an even spread.

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RFDC,

Why do you think that 1992 Magic and Stockton are equal to Chris Paul, Deron Williams, and Russell Westbrook? Also why do you think Mullin/Pippen/50% of Bird is equal to LeBron/Durant/Carmelo?

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Too much focus on how would '92 stop the '12 PG's.
How would '12 stop '92 - at all? LeBron can guard one guy.

If CP is in the game causing havoc offensively (questionable at best) - who in the heck is he supposed to be guarding on the D end? I mean, really?

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I don't think Magic was as much of a shell as you do. Sure Paul and Co would give the 92 team problems, but Stockton and Magic would give them quite a few problems as well. Do you really think any of them could deal with Stockton on the pick & roll? And wisdom and experience have to count for something as well. Magic and Stockton are two of the most intelligent PGs to ever play.

I will concede the advantage to the current team at SF, but I do not think it as huge of a gap as you do.

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Why is it questionable he would be wreaking havoc? He's a great shooter, so much faster/quicker than Magic it wouldn't be fair, and much stronger than Stockton. And he's at his best passing out of the paint/FT area. Sounds like a terrible combo for the '92 team. He would guard Stockton or whoever else was the smallest guard on the court. He's a great defensive player.

LeBron, Iggy, Kobe, and Tyson Chandler are all DPOY-caliber defensive players. Id imagine they would be at the core of how they would defend the '92 team.

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How well does Lebron guard Jordan when he was still in his prime? I'm assuming that is who they would put on Jordan. Jordan would mentally break him down.

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Yes I think Paul could guard Stockton on the pick n roll. He's All-D 1st team caliber.
Chris Paul and LeBron are two of the most intelligent players to ever play also. So is Kobe(if we are differentiating between decision making and basketball IQ )

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How would Paul and crew deal with Magic and the 6-7 inches he had on them? Surely you can see that Stockton and Magic would give them some problems as well. The PG position is way closer to even than you want to admit.

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I honestly don't think they would. That's as big a disadvantage as the C spot. And Derrick Rose isn't even there.

Edit: Save the "you want to admit" stuff. You and spanky are both wrong thinking I would want the 2012 team to win. If this matchup could actually happen I'd root for the Dream Team.

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Difference is that Stockton may not have to be on the floor for the '92 team to start with. The '92 team was much more flexible, position-wise.

Jordan/Pippen/Drexler could hold their own with CP defensivly. Maybe not shut-down, but good enough. But CP ain't stopping any of those guys on D. And Magic could then guard a 2 or 4 and not have to worry about a 1 at all.

I get it, the '12 team could have a good chance at scoring, but the '92 team absolutely dominates on the offensive end. Their big guys would be unstoppable , and then you've got the amazing 2's and 3's.

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I am not sure where to even go with this. Seriously? Chandler vs. Ewing and Robinson is the same as Paul/West/Deron vs. Magic and Stockton?

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I never once said that I thought you wanted the 12 team to win. All I did was repeat something you said. I started this conversation assuming you would be pulling for the Dream Team, that is why is was so odd to me to hear you say you thought Kobe was right.

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Chris Paul would have more success guarding Drexler than vice versa.

The '92 team is actually less flexible. 2012 players are alot less restricted by traditional roles and positions than the 1992 guys were. LeBron could play all five spots. Kobe could play three. Durant could play three. Deron and Westbrook could play either guard spot. Iggy can guard four spots and play three.

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I have to end my conversation if you actually believe this.

Jordan and Pippen guard 4 positions effectively. Magic does a pretty good job on 3 of them.

On top of the fact that the 92 team is incredibly dominant at the 5 ( and maybe the 4) over this 12 team on the defensive end.

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When you say Magic you're thinking mid-80's Magic and I'm thinking retired Magic. Unquantifiable gap there. Plus it sounds like you don't have much respect for Westbrook, Paul, or Deron. Yes those three would destroy Stockton and Magic. It would be ugly. You said LeBron can only guard one guy. Ditto for Pip and Jordan. Those two aren't guarding every G and F spot. And LeBron and Durant are not Tony Kukoc.

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TTYL. I explained my reasoning. Magic couldn't guard 1 position effectively in his prime.

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But.......he could guard 2-3 pretty well, at the same time 2 others were being dominated. And he could play 2-3 effectively offensively while 2-3 were being dominated on his team offensively.


It just seems you keep picking out particular situations that would be advantageous to the 12 team, with realizing that all 5 of the guys would have to be on the court at the same time together, on both ends.





TTYL.

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I thought you were done if I was audacious enough to actually believe what I wrote.

I'm comparing all 12 guys. Obviously im focusing on SF and PG because that's where 2012 has the big advantage. I've conceded 1992 has a big advantage up front. It's puzzling to me why you guys dont feel the same way about the 2012's PG's and SF's.

You still didn't explain why I was wrong about 2012 being more flexible. I explained why the 2012 guys were more versatile.

Magic couldn't guard anyone pretty well. There's not one guy on the 2012 team that he could do an effective defensive job on except for possibly Chris Bosh, who is a PF.

Ttys I guess.

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I don't think the PG disparity is as large as the C and PF disparities. But I'm not a huge fan of either Deron Williams or Chris Paul.

STFU I guess....

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1992 Magic was fat and out of shape because he was out of the league for a year.

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I doubt that the 2012 team even beats the 2008 team let alone the dream team.

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Back to the present, the Clippers' Blake Griffin is headed back to Los Angeles after hurting his knee in a Team USA scrimmage. That's the word from Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski, and #1 pick, the Hornets' Anthony Davis has been summoned.

Good. Maybe he will stop treating every practice like a damn dunk contest now. How has Coach K not slapped the shit out of him yet?

BTW SHARK, Jordan agrees with you verbatim. He used the words "no comparison" when asked about the two Olympic teams.

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1992 Team:
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Larry Bird
Scottie Pippen
Michael Jordan
Clyde Drexler
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Chris Mullin
Charles Barkley
Magic Johnson
Christian Laettner

2012 Team:
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Russell Westbrook
Kobe Bryant
James Harden
LeBron James
Andre Iguodala
Kevin Durant
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
Kevin Love
Tyson Chandler



In a 7-game series, the 1992 team wins in 5 games.

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