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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:06 pm

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long time guy wrote:

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Taj Gibson is destined to be a career backup. He is a good backup but a backup nonetheless. The emergence of Mirotic may make him trade bait. I know that will truly break your heart won't it

Josh Smith isn't on an NBA roster.

Do you really believe his nba career is over?

One of the worst teams in the league doesn't even want him.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:06 pm

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long time guy wrote:

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We aren't talking about careers either. The guy you said was better than Taj was waived by a team that will have to eat $30M of his contract. That's never been done before.

You are quite the non historian aren't you. The Wizards ate Gilbert Arenas contract which was far more lucrative. Stop with the editorializing. You don't know what you're talking about.

The MAGIC used the Amnesty Provision after trading for him so they could clear cap space. The Pistons didn't Amnesty Josh Smith and they got no extra cap space by waiving him. More bad thoughts. #Embarrassing

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:15 pm

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Douchebag wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Douchebag wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Taj Gibson is destined to be a career backup. He is a good backup but a backup nonetheless. The emergence of Mirotic may make him trade bait. I know that will truly break your heart won't it

Josh Smith isn't on an NBA roster.

Do you really believe his nba career is over?

One of the worst teams in the league doesn't even want him.

notice how you didn't answer the question. You know he will be on a team before the end of the week

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:18 pm

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That's not the point. A bad team was willing to take a $30M cap hit instead of having a top 15 PF on their team.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:18 pm

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Nas wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Nas wrote:

We aren't talking about careers either. The guy you said was better than Taj was waived by a team that will have to eat $30M of his contract. That's never been done before.

You are quite the non historian aren't you. The Wizards ate Gilbert Arenas contract which was far more lucrative. Stop with the editorializing. You don't know what you're talking about.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:25 pm

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Nas wrote:

That's not the point. A bad team was willing to take a $30M cap hit instead of having a top 15 PF on their team.

It definitely isn't good look for him. This move was not made for purely basketball reasons.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:30 pm

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Nas wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Nas wrote:

We aren't talking about careers either. The guy you said was better than Taj was waived by a team that will have to eat $30M of his contract. That's never been done before.

You are quite the non historian aren't you. The Wizards ate Gilbert Arenas contract which was far more lucrative. Stop with the editorializing. You don't know what you're talking about.

Bump

Not totally true. They did gain cap flexibility by cutting him using the stretch provision on his contract. They get to pay out his salary over 5 years instead of 2 now.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:35 pm

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So instead of taking a hit over the next 2 years they have the option of stretching it out over several more years. That means the 2020 Pistons may still have a cap hit for a top 15 PF that hasn't played for them in half a decade.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:35 pm

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Nas wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Nas wrote:

We aren't talking about careers either. The guy you said was better than Taj was waived by a team that will have to eat $30M of his contract. That's never been done before.

You are quite the non historian aren't you. The Wizards ate Gilbert Arenas contract which was far more lucrative. Stop with the editorializing. You don't know what you're talking about.

The teams were wrong but the fact remains that he received 62 million after being by the magic. He was waived and the money was ate. You still have it wrong that this has never been done before.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:43 pm

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long time guy wrote:

Nas wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Nas wrote:

We aren't talking about careers either. The guy you said was better than Taj was waived by a team that will have to eat $30M of his contract. That's never been done before.

You are quite the non historian aren't you. The Wizards ate Gilbert Arenas contract which was far more lucrative. Stop with the editorializing. You don't know what you're talking about.

The teams were wrong but the fact remains that he received 62 million after being by the magic. He was waived and the money was ate. You still have it wrong that this has never been done before.

The Magic didn't take a cap hit. No matter how you try to dress it up it was a terrible thought. The Magic traded for him so they could get cap relief. The Pistons just signed Josh Smith last year and had to cut him a year later and they won't clear his contract off their cap.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:57 pm

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The Pistons have more flexibility because of the move. It was not made because he is terrible at basketball. Actually he is having a better season than Lance Stephenson

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:58 pm

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You never like talking about Lance Stephenson do you?

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:59 pm

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long time guy wrote:

The Pistons have more flexibility because of the move. It was not made because he is terrible at basketball. Actually he is having a better season than Lance Stephenson

It was not made because he was bad at basketball? It was made to give them flexibility? Okay. Good talk. Let's not have anymore.

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Bagels

Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:03 pm

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make no mistake, he'll be a huge coup for a playoff team

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:10 pm

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Bagels wrote:

make no mistake, he'll be a huge coup for a playoff team

You are right about that. The guy can still play.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:15 pm

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long time guy wrote:

Bagels wrote:

make no mistake, he'll be a huge coup for a playoff team

You are right about that. The guy can still play.

of course

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:17 pm

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Nas wrote:

long time guy wrote:

The Pistons have more flexibility because of the move. It was not made because he is terrible at basketball. Actually he is having a better season than Lance Stephenson

It was not made because he was bad at basketball? It was made to give them flexibility? Okay. Good talk. Let's not have anymore.

He is having a better season than Lance Stephenson for what it is worth. I would be shocked if a contending team does not attempt to sign him. Once a contender signs him you are going to say it was only done because there was very little in the way of financial risk involved. If he can't play then why would they bother?

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:19 pm

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long time guy wrote:

Nas wrote:

long time guy wrote:

The Pistons have more flexibility because of the move. It was not made because he is terrible at basketball. Actually he is having a better season than Lance Stephenson

It was not made because he was bad at basketball? It was made to give them flexibility? Okay. Good talk. Let's not have anymore.

Who said he wasn't an NBA player? We said Taj was better. Huge difference.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:29 pm

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Nas wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Nas wrote:

long time guy wrote:

The Pistons have more flexibility because of the move. It was not made because he is terrible at basketball. Actually he is having a better season than Lance Stephenson

It was not made because he was bad at basketball? It was made to give them flexibility? Okay. Good talk. Let's not have anymore.

Who said he wasn't an NBA player? We said Taj was better. Huge difference.

For the past yr and a couple of months he has been. Taj has been better. Coincidentally it occurred during the time in which Smith has been on the Pistons. Detroit is a terrible franchise with a terrible point guard. He is the one that should have been cut. Prior to Detroit it was no doubt who the better player was.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:30 pm

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Taj Gibson is not a top 15 PF. That was another of your erroneous claims also

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:33 pm

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I wanted to add this guy but I didnt. I will take Draymond Green over Taj Gibson anyday

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:38 pm

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long time guy wrote:

Taj Gibson is not a top 15 PF. That was another of your erroneous claims also

who said that ? Nas ?

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:38 pm

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long time guy wrote:

I wanted to add this guy but I didnt. I will take Draymond Green over Taj Gibson anyday

Not a power forward...

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:40 pm

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Bagels wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Taj Gibson is not a top 15 PF. That was another of your erroneous claims also

who said that ? Nas ?

Favre Fan actually said it. I sort of said it when I said he would start on most teams.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:43 pm

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Bagels wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Taj Gibson is not a top 15 PF. That was another of your erroneous claims also

who said that ? Nas ?

yep. That is where this whole thing started. He said that Taj would start on most NBA teams. Most would be more than 15 and I provided a list of about 20 guys that I would rather have than Taj. Josh Smith was one of those guys. In Nas' s defense there were a number of people on here that also believed that Taj is a top 15 power forward.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:46 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

long time guy wrote:

I wanted to add this guy but I didnt. I will take Draymond Green over Taj Gibson anyday

Not a power forward...

He is currently starting at power forward for Golden State

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:36 am

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yesterday on the Starters they were reporting (?) the teams interested were Mavs, Rockets, Kings ??

Rockets seems to make some sense

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:42 am

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Rockets and the Kings would make the most sense. He won't start in Dallas. I hope he ends up in Sacramento. I like Boogie Cousins and Rudy Gay. They need a four desperately

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:48 am

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Dallas probably gives him the best chance to win a title but he will probably go to Miami or LA.

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Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:03 am

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long time guy wrote:

Rockets and the Kings would make the most sense. He won't start in Dallas. I hope he ends up in Sacramento. I like Boogie Cousins and Rudy Gay. They need a four desperately

not sure playing with Cousins, Gay and a psycho owner for a (likely) non-playoff team would the best environment for Josh

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