Now you have met him. Just be consistent is all. Brick is spinning and you are co- signing as usual

I didn't judge Carmelo or Davis after 4 years. Discussion over.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

The trajectory for Davis may be worst though. There has to be something at work here for why his teams lose. Look at the records of his teams since he has been in the league. If he is that good they should have improved by now. There is some talent in N.O.

I'm not going to wait 14 years to judge Davis when 4 is working just fine.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

The trajectory for Davis may be worst though. There has to be something at work here for why his teams lose. Look at the records of his teams since he has been in the league. If he is that good they should have improved by now. There is some talent in N.O.

I think a different set of questions should be asked about the NO team, mainly around the coach: what were they thinking? I was never impressed with the Gentry hire; he's only been to the playoffs twice in 13 seasons as a HC, and is under .500 overall. That the Pelicans look like a mess is more of a reflection on Gentry than it is Davis to me, just like the teams early in MJ, LBJ, and KD's careers needed tinkering at the personnel and coaching levels before they started to enjoy success.

Based on those FG%, long time guy probably thinks Curry, Lebron and Griffin would be better players if they took a lot more shots. 50% FG% isn't good...it means you're not creating enough shots. Need to start driving wildly to the basket and chucking some 18 foot skyhooks.

Jimmy Butler only has 16.2 FGA per game. His 22.4 PPG and 45.1% FG% just aren't good enough to have him surpass the great Melo until he gets those FGA past 20!

Start chucking Jimmy! Maybe if you didn't play so much damn good defense you'd have the energy to throw up some fade-away 28 footers.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I'm actually kind of good at it.

There is some talent in N.O.

You have some fascination with NBA players that can score (with bad FG%, so they just chuck up a ton of shots) and they do NOTHING else well.

Anthony Davis shoots 48.7% and is their top scorer. He is good.

Their next five in PPG shoot 41% between themselves. And Ryan Anderson, Tyreke Evans, Eric Gordon, Jrue Holiday, and Norris Cole play almost zero defense.

So what that they score 101 points per game. They give up 105.

If that team didn't have Anthony Davis, they could be winless. He should be in the running for MVP.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Wait...do you discount like all statistics? Do they like...not count? Does the NBA not tally things like points? Maybe the NBA matches are decided like boxing?

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I used to make the same arguments about Anthony and guys like you used to dismiss it each and every time. WYC?

If Davis is so good then why is N.O. so bad? Jrue Holiday has been an all star before and Evans had a helluva year last year. They have talent.

I'm actually kind of good at it. My point has a lot of merit. Anthony Davis has been anointed as a legit MVP candidate. This assessment is not based much on the future as it is now. What have his teams done for him to deserve such acclaim? Carmelo Anthony made the playoffs his first 9 years in the league and Davis is about to miss for third year out of 4 and the Melo bashers don't seem to have a problem with it.

With Melo the argument was always about not winning anything as justification and now Davis's teams are about to miss the playoffs for the 3 year out of 4 and its casually dismissed as give him time. I exposed the obvious hypocrisy in the statements made by you and others as usual.

1. Carmelo Anthony never played defense.
2. Carmelo Anthony has only shot above 48.7% once in his 14 seasons. He is a career 45.4% shooter. Anthony Davis is a career 51.8% shooter.
3. Carmelo Anthony had Nene, Camby and Andre Miller during their best years, starting right away during his rookie season. He then had KDdidit Martin and Allen Iverson added to the mix. Then Billups, Afflalo, and Ty Lawson joined the mix.

When exactly were the Nuggets bereft of some talent around Carmelo Anthony?

I just provided you with proof that Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans are not good this year. And I vehemently disagree with you on how good they were at their respective 'peaks.' PPG in a vacuum does not make you good. Period.

You simply do not understand. You're so enveloped in your little world that has crowned you king of basketball. You're so far gone that you cannot even begin to come back to reality where things like 'the other teams' points' matter.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

1. Carmelo Anthony never played defense.
2. Carmelo Anthony has only shot above 48.7% once in his 14 seasons. He is a career 45.4% shooter. Anthony Davis is a career 51.8% shooter.
3. Carmelo Anthony had Nene, Camby and Andre Miller during their best years, starting right away during his rookie season. He then had KDdidit Martin and Allen Iverson added to the mix. Then Billups, Afflalo, and Ty Lawson joined the mix.

When exactly were the Nuggets bereft of some talent around Carmelo Anthony?

I just provided you with proof that Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans are not good this year. And I vehemently disagree with you on how good they were at their respective 'peaks.' PPG in a vacuum does not make you good. Period.

You simply do not understand. You're so enveloped in your little world that has crowned you king of basketball. You're so far gone that you cannot even begin to come back to reality where things like 'the other teams' points' matter.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Kawhi Leonard has never made an All Star team.

Monta Ellis, Al Jefferson, Draymond Green, Nene, Richard Jefferson, Tayshaun Prince....and for you, my love....Josh Smith...none of those players ever made an All Star team.

Where is your God now, you fuck.


You heard it here folks...you are not good, and have never been good, if you've never made an NBA All Star Game.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You've ceded this thread to me already. Stop posting. You cannot come back from that last one.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Marshmelo Playoff Facts:

In 10 trips to the playoffs his teams have lasted 5 or fewer games 7 times

His teams were a top 4 seed 5 times

In 66 total playoff games he's shot LESS THAN 42% from the field and 33% from 3.

He shoots the ball over 21 times but averages less than 3 assists.

His teams have been swept 3 times

His teams won only 1 game 4 times

His teams won only 2 games once

His teams advanced 2 times (Even in baseball that's bad)

He shot over 47% once

He shot under 40% 4 times

He shot under 37% 3 times

Under 34% twice

He has shot under 10% from the field in multiple games despite shooting the ball 15+ times

He's won 23 games and lost 43

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I really like the Kawhi and Deng comparison.

To be fair, that was me. And I said Kawhi is Deng on steroids, i.e. he's a much better version of Deng. If we were talking about Deng I'd say he's a poor man's Kawhi, and I think that would have went over just fine. So Kawhi being Deng on steroids is just the inverse.

Nene wasn't established back then and none of the guys that you name have ever been in an all star game.

I agree with RFDC's take on LBJ vs Kawhi. Though they have around the same PER ranking on ESPN (LBJ ahead by less than a point),

LBJ's skills I think make him more of a problem for opposing defenses than Kawhi. Kawhi is the better defender at this point, but when he's forced to turn it on LBJ can be a very effective defender. Just ask the ghost of Derrick Rose. I don't see many SA games, so not too sure about this, but Kawhi seems to be a Luol Deng on steroids. That's not meant to denigrate him in anyway, or suggest he's not an All NBA talent, etc. Just trying to summarize his game by using a model. From what I remember he could dribble drive a bit, but it's not like his ability to penetrate is on par with folks like LBJ or KD. Perhaps that has changed recently, not sure. LBJ is more like Magic, of course, so there's a dynamism that's still there with James that you don't have (yet) with Kawhi, and again that's not a knock. I'd probably rank Kawhi ahead of Curry just because of Kawhi's defensive prowess, but in the end I think Davis will be the perennial number one player in the league just because of his versatility on both ends of the floor.