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J Embid reaction

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The unhappy lives line is the opposite of what Durant's been about since he went to Golden State. It's Lebron expressing why he needn't be concerned with the haters, as opposed to actively seeking them out to defend his legacy or moping and wondering why they're hating on him at all. It may not have been particularly likable and it may have indicated he was a sore loser but it's certainly not equivalent to how emo Durant has been.

And I think while Lebron and Durant can both be seen under the broad umbrella of free agency moves made to increase the probability of winning a ring, the fact remains Lebron did not join the team he had just lost to in the East. Saying Durant was just following in Lebron's footsteps lets him off the hook too easily IMO.

too bad TNT post game crew is no longer doing games. tonight would have probably been the best show between shaq, ,kenny, and chuck.

I just disagree once again. The only good part of Durant joining GS is he patently stole LeBron’s idea but did it better, and will now proceed to kick Lebron’s ass every year all because LeBron took the brunt of the coward criticism and opened the doors for it.

I think the unhappy lives comment was showing insecurity and not disregard for the haters. It clearly showed how insecure he was about his place in the NBA and how preoccupied he was with that perception even after the biggest game of the season and maybe his career to that point.

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Where you see "did it better" I see "was a significantly bigger coward" and thus someone even more worthy of scorn.

Again though, this is not Lebron doing the "woe is me" schtick that Durant has been on for ages now. And he was literally responding to a question about people rooting for him to fail, so I don't really see how it's the least bit indicative of being "preoccupied" by them; he didn't just bring the subject up out of the blue. As I said, it's not a particularly likable thing to say, and you can call it petty or immature, but it's fundamentally not the kind of self-victimization or ploy for sympathy that Durant's been looking for.

Your last paragraph is textbook rationalization. Most of your LeBron defenses have been. Not sure what else to say. I don’t think your perception is even close to reality.

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The only rationalizing and fanboyish defending in this entire exchange has been on your end for the Warriors. As a reminder, you started interrogating me about my likes and dislikes, not the other way around, for daring to say mean things about Curry and Durant and Lebron wasn't even part of the conversation at all until you brought him up just to try to defend Durant. I think it's your perception of reality that's much further adrift here if you think my offering perfectly valid reasons for disliking Durant more constitutes some kind of rigid defense of Lebron.

Except I'm not a Warriors fan and have been critical of them whereas you have gone out of your way to defend and deflect any and all criticisms of lebron for years now so trying to flip the fanboy narrative doesn't work. This isn't SA vs Cleveland.

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Uh what? For years now? I loved rooting against the Heat, bashed Bernstein and the Deadspin affiliated sites pretty regularly for their attempted defenses of Lebron and appreciating greatness in that era, and have otherwise been pretty ambivalent about his time in Cleveland. If anything I think this is just showing how skewed your perspective is because you're categorizing me as some kind of hardcore Lebron defender when at most I've echoed leash on how silly Bulls fans can be about his legacy (while still regularly saying I prefer Jordan) and the constantly moving definition of clutchness, neither of which have anything to do with whether he's likable or not.

And I didn't accuse you of being a Warriors fan, but your defenses of them and your pearl clutching at my saying not so nice things about Durant and Curry have most definitely been fanboyish.

Pearl clutching? I agreed with everything you said about Durant and didn't disagree with you about Curry being an arrogant asshole even though I like him as a player.

All you need to do is search your posts cross referenced with lebron and it immediately becomes clear where your bias lies. It's all good. I have my biases. I just don't deny them wholly like you are right now. I admit I don't like lebron and post accordingly.

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I dunno,this is the second thread this playoffs where you've seemed bothered about my not finding the Warriors likable. And of course, you rushed to bring up Lebron to defend Durant, so I'm not quite sure if you did agree with everything I said or not.


I did just that. I see some defenses, primarily on the legacy point and the moving definition of clutchness, and some criticism, like the Miami move and how he's portrayed in the media. If I said both positive and negative things, that means I'm not a fan and not biased by the very standard you used to absolve yourself on this issue for the Warriors, right?

You seem to be under the impression that anyone who disagrees with you on Lebron must have equally intense preferences and biases simply in the opposite direction.

Read again if you’re not sure. I agreed with everything you said. Our only disagreement was your refusal to acknowledge what gave Durant the idea and tacit permission to make a move like that.


I can find more posts of mine priaising LeBron than you can of yourself criticizing him this season so this narrative doesn’t quite work either.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Why did I have to acknowledge anything about Lebron at all? And if we're playing the refuse to acknowledge game, you certainly seem to be refusing to acknowledge that Durant's move was actually far more cowardly than Lebron's by instead repeatedly trying to change the subject to precedent and "tacit permission" (after of course you tried to change the subject from Durant to Lebron altogether). You can feel free to revisit my posts in the thread when Durant signed for my thoughts on the comparison, but I see little reason why I should have had to remark on it at all here aside from your bizarrely classifying me as some kind of hardcore Lebron apologist.

I've scarcely criticized or praised him at all for anything that's happened this season. Outside of you and leash's 2 legacy threads and now this one, the one other time I talked about Lebron at any length in the past year was agreeing with you and ltg and arguing against vegan about Lebron being partly responsible for Kyrie wanting out and the general turmoil in Cleveland.

Came here for end of regulation reaction and all it is is everyone bitching at eatchother in a soppy emotional way. Faggits

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So Lue says in press conf that JR thought they were up....

JR is now telling people he knew it was tied....

Lebron gets up and walks off the podium upset at the questions he was facing...

what a clusterfuck. Can you imagine the level of tension in that locker room right now?

JR just own it....you fucked up. No way in hell you thought it was tied. No way in hell Lebron didnt have some choice words for him in the locker room.

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The off season is going to be more interesting than the rest of these finals. The Lebron drama is going to be off the charts. Houston is the clubhouse leader now.

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Just heard the ESPN radio call and they also thought the Cavs won the game too.

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I tried my best to post every relevant JR meme from twitter.

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i appreciate that

I just dont think that was the worst part of the game. The lebron charge call was bad too. And, to me, absolutely shitting the bed in overtime was horrible.

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I've been a LeBron hater and a critic of his for years but I have really been impressed by what he has done this postseason. He's taken his game to another level. That being said SHOOT THE FUCKING BALL. The Cavs should have won or lost because of his shot.

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they definitely played better... but the warriors didnt play as good as they could. And the cavs played as good as they could... so i just dont see this ending well for the cavs anyway...

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they definitely played better... but the warriors didnt play as good as they could. And the cavs played as good as they could... so i just dont see this ending well for the cavs anyway...

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i wont blame him at all if he leaves. the cavs organization is trash.

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I'm talking about when J.r. Smith grabbed the rebound

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Doesn't it make it worse if he knew it was tied and failed to try to get a shot up? Especially when he grabbed the rebound right in front of the basket?

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The Cavs are trash due to Lebron playing GM and demanding players like Tristan Thompson get paid.

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I'm with you.

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Don't forget he wanted JR resigned as well.

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