Jabari Parker's RPM is eerily close to that of Trae Young's. Problem with that is Jabari isn't viewed as the "face of the franchise" Trae Young is however. Suggests more about who Trae Young happens to be as a player than anything.

Neil Funk last week and last night Stu Lance giving him and Pierce the business for just Trae centric the offense happens to be when he is in the game.

Top 5 in usage rate. Only one of the top 5 playing on a shitty team.

Now Collins is being presented as the 2nd coming of Chris Webber. Decent player but as usual No Great is getting just a little bit carried.

He is terrible defensively too.

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Trae and Collins have a really good working relationship in the lane. Trae and Parker don't. There's going to be 2-3 extra bunnies a game that Parker isn't getting. But that doesn't address poor 3 point shooting and poor defense. They will still lose. That's just an objective conclusion no matter how many times Trae dribbles between a guy's legs.

There will be a few more alley oop passes. They will be a little bit better for no other reason than there will be more depth.

These are the same teammate bashing excuses that No Great used to make regarding the failings of Lonzo.

Trae is a better player but that doesn't mean that he is all that more impactful of a player.

They need a whole lot more than John Collins in order to be considered a good team.

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Markelle Fultz was placed in the starting of a team missing an All Star center and their record actually improved.

He isn't even playing as well as he will be in the near future and was still able to be impactful.

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The kid did have the yips. You don't just forget how to play basketball without having them. Good for him that he seems to be getting over it.

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He really isn't though. His shot from 3 is basically the same as it was when people claimed that he had the "yips". His 3 is still vomit inducing its just that Orlando is allowing him to play through it.

His injuries were legitimate. Suggesting that he "forgot how to play basketball" is a false message board narrative.

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No it’s not. He legitimately did. Couldn’t shoot free throws or anything for awhile. All of this is well documented beyond this message board.

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Just like his shoulder injury is well documented beyond this message board. The difference is that the yips were promoted by bloggers and really no one else. There is nothing about his 3 point shot which has changed from last season. Its the same shot.

Its obvious when he takes the shot that there is still something wrong with his shoulder. He is simply playing through the injury.

They didn't know what was wrong with him at the time and when they did they (He and his agent) shut him down in the hopes that the injury could be rehabilitated.

Now that they actually know they are allowing him to play with it.

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Both things can be true. An uncomfortable shoulder leads to a mental issue leads to the yips at the free throw line.

A comfortable shoulder leads to resolution of the mental issue that leads to no yips.

Markelle Fultz shot a higher percentage from 3 with the "yips" than he does currently without them.

The hitch in his shot from 3 is still there and shooting mid range shots was never a problem for him. It was only when he has to launch 3's that you notice it. Nothing has changed.

People on here claimed that he was never injured at all. One guy in particular stupidly claimed that he should be on suicide watch.

When it was all said and done they appear to have been wrong.

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small sample size, but their defense looked vastly improved at the start of the year when Collins was playing. Collins may not be a great defender, but he's willing and puts in effort. Jabari puts in no effort on defense beyond trying to stay in front of his own guy. He makes zero effort on rotations or help. Yesterday, even Trae had to yell at him for refusing to leave his guy and cover the lane when he was the closest guy to it and an opponent was driving to the hoop.

The team will be a lot better when they get JC back, same as last year.

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Who said he was on suicide watch?

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You sound like a guy who's never had the yips. You should take up golf. Sooner or later, they'll come.

Farvio. Farvio. Really don't have to draw straws do we?

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Fultz sucks too just like Trae. Don't @ me on this one LTG.

Fultz is going to be a player. Book it!

Your guy Coby White Blows however. Now that is a guy that sucks.

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I wasn't sure. Just making sure it wasn't some dumb thing I said while sauced one night.

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White got Boylen'd

What a difference a day makes 24 little hours

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

After 4 teams in 5 years I would doubt anyone thinking "he's the face of the franchise" but being 2nd over all pick a lot of people thought he'd be the face of the franchise

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Only further illustrating how miscast that Trae Young must be if his RPM is similar to that of Jabari Parker's.

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look at his ORPM his defensive can ONLY get better Young is closer to Rose than Parker

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Saying he can "only get better" suggests nothing as he is the worst defensive player in the league. He could "get better" and still be considered terrible.

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according to the metric everyone seems to be using he is not the worst

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

He is currently 428 out of 432. Last year i think he was 430 out 430.

So yes technically he has improved. Unfortunately he is still terrible and easily the worst that i have ever seen.

Much worse at defense than Jabari Parker according to the ratings.

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Another Trae Young stat stuffing game.

Got the doors blown off them by the lowly Knicks. Down 20 halfway through the 2nd quarter.

Trae Young a -20 but again we will here how bad his teammates happen to be.

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Stat padding: when anyone ltg doesn't like puts up good numbers

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I like Zach Lavine for example. You have never seen me touting his stats after the Bulls have been blown out. In fact i rarely cite his stats at all. Why? Because he plays for a losing ass team.

Anyone (not you obviously since you don't know a damn thing) that knows anything about sports knows that you never quote stats when your team is blown out by 25 or 30.

They are meaningless in blowout losses. I'm sorry you're too stupid to know that. I forgot we're supposed to respect what you think (McAdoo invented the stretch 4 position) simply because you have been watching the game since the days of the peach basket.

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Good numbers? What an idiot.

He played 41 minutes in a game in which they were down 30 early in the 3rd Quarter dumbass. There is nothing "good" about such numbers and the only reason that he was still in the game is so that he could "pad his stats".

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I don't give a fuck if Trae scored 60. If your team scores 120 pts and lose by 23 to the worst offensive team in the league, that's an embarrassment.