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you are talking about Melo. I however am proving a point


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I however am proving a point
The whole point is that getting the ball to Carmelo and getting out of the way is a horrible way to try and win a title. Listing two guys with multiple championships doesn't prove any point.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:48 am 
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That's too bad because he always elevates his game in the playoffs.

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Nas wrote:
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you are talking about Melo. I however am proving a point


That you can get people to respond to you? Congratulations!

The reason they respond to me is because i would never say Erik Murphy is better than Boozer or Boozer is better than Gasol. Nor Taj is better than Gasol. I also don't flip flop. I would never state that a guy that has averaged about 10 a game for his career is a person that can get his own shot. My points are often valid as they are now. When you play with better players you tend to win more. My point has been consistent. It is validated by history not opinions and emotions. You were all in on signing Anthony until he chose money over winning. He became "marshmelo" immediately afterwards. No games were played at that point so what changed your mind. Your credibility on all things sports if you ever had any is eroding by the minute.

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you are talking about Melo. I however am proving a point


That you can get people to respond to you? Congratulations!

The reason they respond to me is because i would never say Erik Murphy is better than Boozer or Boozer is better than Gasol. Nor Taj is better than Gasol. I also don't flip flop. I would never state that a guy that has averaged about 10 a game for his career is a person that can get his own shot. My points are often valid as they are now. When you play with better players you tend to win more. My point has been consistent. It is validated by history not opinions and emotions. You were all in on signing Anthony until he chose money over winning. He became "marshmelo" immediately afterwards. No games were played at that point so what changed your mind. Your credibility on all things sports if you ever had any is eroding by the minute.


There's no inconsistency in wanting him in Chicago then making fun of him for choosing NY. He would have been a supporting star here and not the main guy. Totally different scenario than what's going down in NY, and how it's been for him during all of his career.

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you are talking about Melo. I however am proving a point


That you can get people to respond to you? Congratulations!

The reason they respond to me is because i would never say Erik Murphy is better than Boozer or Boozer is better than Gasol. Nor Taj is better than Gasol. I also don't flip flop. I would never state that a guy that has averaged about 10 a game for his career is a person that can get his own shot. My points are often valid as they are now. When you play with better players you tend to win more. My point has been consistent. It is validated by history not opinions and emotions. You were all in on signing Anthony until he chose money over winning. He became "marshmelo" immediately afterwards. No games were played at that point so what changed your mind. Your credibility on all things sports if you ever had any is eroding by the minute.


There's no inconsistency in wanting him in Chicago then making fun of him for choosing NY. He would have been a supporting star here and not the main guy. Totally different scenario than what's going down in NY, and how it's been for him during all of his career.

There is an inconsistency when you refer to him as a clutch player and a guy you need to win a championship one week conveniently the week you believe he is going to sign with the Bulls and then rail against him for being a playoff no show the next week when he signs with the Knicks. If that is not the height of flip flopping i don't know what is.

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Discussion over.

I don't Kobe winning anymore nor do I see Lebron winning again either.
We're talking about Carmelo here.

Both those players have won titles as the best player on the team. According to you, Carmelo won't even win one as the second best player.

They won win they played alongside top five players. When has Anthony ever played with a top five player? I know you won't answer but I had to ask anyway

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They won win they played alongside top five players. When has Anthony ever played with a top five player? I know you won't answer but I had to ask anyway
Carmelo has never played with a top five player.

However, if you remember, this was about "Get the ball to Carmelo and get out of the way". If he needs another top 5 player to even have a chance to win a ring then that is a dumb plan.

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They won win they played alongside top five players. When has Anthony ever played with a top five player? I know you won't answer but I had to ask anyway
Carmelo has never played with a top five player.

However, if you remember, this was about "Get the ball to Carmelo and get out of the way". If he needs another top 5 player to even have a chance to win a ring then that is a dumb plan.

Get him the ball was never meant to be they would win a championship. Miami was always the better team. Get him the ball was about making them a better team. It did make them better at the time. They won 54 games and were second in the East. They maxed out with get him the ball. It was also about taking the ball out Lin's hands for the purpose of making them a better team. You twisted Goff's point to serve your own purpose of Melo bashing. The Knicks had a successful season and exceeded expectations. In your eyes their season was a bust because they didn't win a championship. I don't live in a Bernstein bubble of all or nothing. That is why i constantly refer to Bernstein because a lot of you bash the guy but your views are often lockstep with his. This way of thinking suggests that the Knicks of that yr. were no different than the Utah Jazz because hell neither one of them won anything. That is extremely flawed logic. Ask the fans of UTah if they would rather have had the Knicks season or their own and see what it is that they choose.

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I'm confident LeBron could lead the Knicks to the playoffs. Who needs Marshmelo when you have Jimmy Butler? He's leading the Bulls to the playoffs without a top 30 player.

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No, it was that it wasn't a good way to try and win a championship. No one doubts that Carmelo will give you some more meaningless regular season wins. You just won't be relevant in the actual playoffs. You agree since you already have said that he won't ever win a ring.

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Nas wrote:
I'm confident LeBron could lead the Knicks to the playoffs. Who needs Marshmelo when you have Jimmy Butler? He's leading the Bulls to the playoffs without a top 30 player.

Pau Gasol is going to make the all star team and Noah was an allstar. Butler is playing well but if it was Butler and a bunch of nothing the Bulls would be worse than the Charlotte Hornets. Your credibility as previously stated is eroding by the minute due to comments such as these.

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I'm confident LeBron could lead the Knicks to the playoffs. Who needs Marshmelo when you have Jimmy Butler? He's leading the Bulls to the playoffs without a top 30 player.
My reason for believing that he will never win is due far more to a broken down Stoudamire and Priogini in your starting lineup not that he could be the NO.1 guy on championship team. The window for that has closed because they will never have viable No. 2. Who is the number 2 on the Knicks Hardaway? What are you winning with that?

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I'm confident LeBron could lead the Knicks to the playoffs. Who needs Marshmelo when you have Jimmy Butler? He's leading the Bulls to the playoffs without a top 30 player.

I'm not.

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How about Marshmelo lead his team to the playoffs like Noah did last season? How about him winning a series or a playoff game every now and then? How about playing well in the playoffs? He needs to crawl before he can run.

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How about Marshmelo play better than the 90 year old Kobe Bryant?

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Jimmy Butler > Marshmelo. I'm sure at least IMU would agree with me.

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I'm confident LeBron could lead the Knicks to the playoffs. Who needs Marshmelo when you have Jimmy Butler? He's leading the Bulls to the playoffs without a top 30 player.

man. I don't known anymore. Can you imagine the minutes load that would be on him to try and do that?

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How about Marshmelo lead his team to the playoffs like Noah did last season? How about him winning a series or a playoff game every now and then? How about playing well in the playoffs? He needs to crawl before he can run.

Once again crebility erosion. He has lead his team to the playoffs every yr. except last yr. He has won playoff series in the past. He was in a conf. finals and took the Lakers to six games that yr. The Knicks stink. The Bulls have better players than the Knicks that is why they made the playoffs. Outside of Anthony there isn't another player on the Knicks that would start for the Bulls. It is interesting that Kobe Bryant currently has about the same record as Anthony why? because he is playing with players that are slightly better than Anthony. He isn't the Black Mamba these days he is just another guy on a bad team. Same thing goes for Anthony Davis. The Pelicans are going to miss the playoffs again. He actually has better talent than either of the other guys and is touted as the next great thing yet why can't his team make the playoffs. Are we asking why he isn't carrying a team to the playoffs. Is he viewed as a chronic loser. Melo made the playoffs every yr. until last.

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I'm confident LeBron could lead the Knicks to the playoffs. Who needs Marshmelo when you have Jimmy Butler? He's leading the Bulls to the playoffs without a top 30 player.

man. I don't known anymore. Can you imagine the minutes load that would be on him to try and do that?


It would be a lot of heavy lifting but in the East it is doable. Granted he's the best player in the league and it's been a decade since he had to lead a bad team to the playoffs.

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Why does Marshmelo have a 20-70 playoff record? Great leadership!

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Why does Marshmelo have a 20-70 playoff record? Great leadership!

Yet you still wanted and touted him as a guy that could have taken the Bulls to the championship. You are rapidly becoming the Charlie Crist of this message board.

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Alpha Dogs should be better. Noah > Marshmelo Gasol > Marshmelo Butler > Marshmelo 90 year old Kobe > Marshmelo Brandon Jennings = Marshmelo

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Why does Marshmelo have a 20-70 playoff record? Great leadership!

Yet you still wanted and touted him as a guy that could have taken the Bulls to the championship. You are rapidly becoming the Charlie Crist of this message board.


He was going to be a role player. He can be the 3rd best player on a championship team. He just can lead a team to the playoffs or win a series as the best player.

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Amare is having a better season than Marshmelo.

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Amare is having a better season than Marshmelo.


:lol: :lol:


ive seen Amare turn back the clock on a few plays this year


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Amare is having a better season than Marshmelo.


:lol: :lol:


ive seen Amare turn back the clock on a few plays this year


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Why does Marshmelo have a 20-70 playoff record? Great leadership!

Yet you still wanted and touted him as a guy that could have taken the Bulls to the championship. You are rapidly becoming the Charlie Crist of this message board.


He was going to be a role player. He can be the 3rd best player on a championship team. He just can lead a team to the playoffs or win a series as the best player.

He would have been arguably the Bulls best player. Considering that Rose rarely plays He would have been their best player. You are making all of this fuss over not getting a third best player? I would hate to see you when the Bulls lose out on Durant in a couple of yrs.

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Amare is having a better season than Marshmelo.

You are really reaching on this one.

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Amare is having a better season than Marshmelo.

You are really reaching on this one.


19 points and 16 rebounds per 36 mins. He's shooting 55% from the field too. Way more productive than Marshmelo.

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