You don't have him.rated right if you think he is better than Embiid. Embiid avg. 23 and 11 and is in a different stratosphere than him defensively. Embiid is dominant defensively.

Jokic is the worst defending starting Center in the league. If not the worst then in the conversation for worst.

Hell of a game tonight.

I love Jokic going forward. Don’t tell me he can’t get bucket at clutch moments.

Taj shut him down and he was rattled. Hell of a player though.

He put it all out there. He’ll come back next season in better shape and with improved young teammates and dominate. Looking forward to it.

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Another guy (Embiid) That FavreFan has been wrong about.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2321 ... ople-think

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

His thoughts on De'aaron Fox and Lonzo Ball only embolden my claims.

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Yep. Fox didn't blow the spot up but i have him as the better player going forward. Ball ain't shit.

Nikola Jokic is the NBA’s second-most talented offensive big man behind only Anthony Davis, and he showed it Saturday night by pitching a perfect game with 35 points on 11-for-11 shooting to go with 12 rebounds, 11 assists, four steals, and one block. The Serbian center is frequently compared with Marc Gasol, but Jokic, now in his fourth NBA season at only 23, is younger than Gasol was when the Spaniard first entered the league, and more productive offensively than Gasol has ever been.

Jokic is a clairvoyant passer, an elite rebounder, and a versatile scorer. The question has always been defense. But times are changing. The season is not yet one week old, and through three games the Nuggets have the NBA’s no. 1 defense—with victories over the Clippers, Suns, and Warriors. They’ve revised their pick-and-roll defense, and Jokic is flourishing.

https://www.facebook.com/nba/videos/10156649737193463/

Beautiful

Good luck with that. Ball was the better player this year.

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Some of the "NBA experts" may need a refresher course on a few things

Yeah, like how good Jokic is

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It was on in the background as I was doing mostly other things.

MCW had another solid game.

Cousins is average at best.

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Jokic is fine defensively and he's a great rebounder. Are you drunk?

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Another silly statement that is completely without context but unless board hierarchy dismisses it then it somehow passes for either a valid statement or a "valued opinion"

Jokic's turned into a solid defensive player and his rebounding percentage is 18.5, 18th in the NBA. Embiid is at 18.8, 16th in the NBA. If one of those players is a great rebounder than so is the other.

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When did Jokic "turn into a solid defensive player"?. As late as last season his defense still stunk and Embiid averages more than 2 per game more. There is no guarantee that Jokic would average more simply by playing more minutes. His lateral movement stinks and it is painful to watch him have to switch over to check guards. He is Jalil Okafor level bad.

None of that is true except the part about him being bad last year. He was bad last year defensively and I was wrong when I said he was fine, but he's improved drastically this year on that end and it shows in his individual stats and metrics and in Denver's overall defensive metrics. Denver was 23rd in Defensive Efficiency last year and they are 2nd so far this year, behind only Boston.

The rebounding stuff I'll just ignore. It tells me you don't know what rebounding percentage is or don't think it's valid, so I'm not gonna continue a debate when that is the case.

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You also are using a small sample size regarding "team defense" and attributing it to Jokic.

Nope.



I know you like to argue against facts with opinions but Jokic is objectively doing very well defensively this year. There isn't a weakness to his game. I'll grant you the small sample size but that doesn't change the fact that SO FAR, he's been an excellent defensive player. I've seen 5 Nuggets games so far and the eye test matches the metrics. He's much quicker hedging on pick n rolls and rotating underneath. He's also getting stronger to the point where he's not as easily pushed around by some of the bigger centers.

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Embiid's not a great defensive player and it's been a problem for Philly early on.

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Embiid isn't the 6ers problem

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Embiid's not a great defensive player and it's been a problem for Philly early on.

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