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Grant Hill

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The answer is necessarily Oden because he plays center.

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Grant Hill.

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I'm going with Penny. His injury destroyed his would be HoF career. Grant Hill still had a good career after his injury. Both would have been top 10 to 25 players of all time.

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Penny

I don't think McGrady belongs on this list. He was already in his prime when the injuries came. He might have lost maybe 2-3 productive seasons but his career outlook would not have changed much IMO.

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Grant Hill.

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Len Bias had a worse injury than any of these people.

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greg oden was a 19 year old trapped in a 48 year old man's body. he would've never had a career.

Reggie Lewis

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Sabonis was supposedly better than Jordan in his prime so it has to be him.

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To me, the answer is clearly Grant Hill. Agree w/ DB that Mcgrady had prime years. I loved Penny, and he was a great player, but I sometimes think Penny was a bit overloved because his game was so smooth and pretty. He also played on a great team with Shaq taking a lot of doubles. Hill was already averaging 25, 6, and 7 at a young age.

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McGrady easily had the best career of those guys. It's not really close.

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Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady

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That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers.

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This.

Hill was LBJ without the muscle - his numbers up until the injury are very similar.

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Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player.

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Like DB said T-Mac shouldn't even be on here - his career wasn't cut short as early as the careers of Penny, Hill, and maybe Roy were. I have no idea what Oden is doing here - didn't he flop and/or get injured from day one?

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Jordan came back from injury. Maybe he is the right answer. He just didn't suck at coming back from injury.

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Oden was a monster in college and he was drafted over Durant. I agree McGrady shouldn't be on the list.

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If that's how we're doing it, it probably is Oden.

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The question was who would have had a better career if they didn't get injured.

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Oden was not a monster in college. He was a project and gained notoriety for shooting free throws left-handed. He actually did well in the National Championship against Noah, but I think he only averaged around 10 or 12 points a game.

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Oh, okay, I just noticed that. There's not enough evidence to make a case for Oden. It would have to be Hill or Hardaway. I'd say they're pretty similar.

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Not true. He was coming off an injury and still averaged close to 20 and 10 with like 4 blocks. All while playing with his opposite hand.

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Well, we're both off by four because he averaged 15.9. He did play with his left hand, but he wasn't a monster. Can't call a 7-footer who averages 16 and almost 10 a monster. I was never high on the guy. He always seemed slow, methodical, and hesitant.

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Yeah, Oden's injuries derailed what would have been one hell of a career. Him and Dwight going at it in their mid-20's could have been one of those all time great rivalries. I also think Oden was willing, and serious about becoming the best basketball player he could be. Unlike Dwight mugging for the camera, and acting like a spoiled child throughout his career.

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