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Author: | Nas [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Who has the best career? |
Author: | Douchebag [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:42 am ] |
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Grant Hill |
Author: | leashyourkids [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:43 am ] |
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The answer is necessarily Oden because he plays center. |
Author: | spmack [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:45 am ] |
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Grant Hill. |
Author: | Nas [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:46 am ] |
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I'm going with Penny. His injury destroyed his would be HoF career. Grant Hill still had a good career after his injury. Both would have been top 10 to 25 players of all time. |
Author: | Bagels [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:54 am ] |
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Penny |
Author: | Douchebag [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:55 am ] |
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I don't think McGrady belongs on this list. He was already in his prime when the injuries came. He might have lost maybe 2-3 productive seasons but his career outlook would not have changed much IMO. |
Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:55 am ] |
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leashyourkids wrote: The answer is necessarily Oden because he plays center. Grant Hill. |
Author: | Brick [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:58 am ] |
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Len Bias had a worse injury than any of these people. |
Author: | W_Z [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:04 am ] |
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greg oden was a 19 year old trapped in a 48 year old man's body. he would've never had a career. |
Author: | Nas [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:18 am ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Len Bias had a worse injury than any of these people. Reggie Lewis |
Author: | Bagels [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:19 am ] |
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Pervis Ellison |
Author: | Brick [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:22 am ] |
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Sabonis was supposedly better than Jordan in his prime so it has to be him. |
Author: | leashyourkids [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:23 am ] |
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To me, the answer is clearly Grant Hill. Agree w/ DB that Mcgrady had prime years. I loved Penny, and he was a great player, but I sometimes think Penny was a bit overloved because his game was so smooth and pretty. He also played on a great team with Shaq taking a lot of doubles. Hill was already averaging 25, 6, and 7 at a young age. |
Author: | JORR [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:27 am ] |
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McGrady easily had the best career of those guys. It's not really close. |
Author: | Nas [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:31 am ] |
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Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady |
Author: | JORR [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:35 am ] |
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Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. |
Author: | veganfan21 [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:37 am ] |
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leashyourkids wrote: To me, the answer is clearly Grant Hill. Agree w/ DB that Mcgrady had prime years. I loved Penny, and he was a great player, but I sometimes think Penny was a bit overloved because his game was so smooth and pretty. He also played on a great team with Shaq taking a lot of doubles. Hill was already averaging 25, 6, and 7 at a young age. This. Hill was LBJ without the muscle - his numbers up until the injury are very similar. |
Author: | Nas [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:39 am ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player. |
Author: | veganfan21 [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:43 am ] |
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Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player. Like DB said T-Mac shouldn't even be on here - his career wasn't cut short as early as the careers of Penny, Hill, and maybe Roy were. I have no idea what Oden is doing here - didn't he flop and/or get injured from day one? |
Author: | Brick [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:46 am ] |
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Jordan came back from injury. Maybe he is the right answer. He just didn't suck at coming back from injury. |
Author: | Nas [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:47 am ] |
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veganfan21 wrote: Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player. Like DB said T-Mac shouldn't even he on here - his career wasn't cut short as early as the careers of Penny, Hill, and maybe Roy were. I have no idea what Oden is doing here - didn't he flop and/or get injured from day one? Oden was a monster in college and he was drafted over Durant. I agree McGrady shouldn't be on the list. |
Author: | JORR [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:54 am ] |
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Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player. If that's how we're doing it, it probably is Oden. |
Author: | Nas [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:04 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player. If that's how we're doing it, it probably is Oden. The question was who would have had a better career if they didn't get injured. |
Author: | leashyourkids [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:07 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player. Like DB said T-Mac shouldn't even he on here - his career wasn't cut short as early as the careers of Penny, Hill, and maybe Roy were. I have no idea what Oden is doing here - didn't he flop and/or get injured from day one? Oden was a monster in college and he was drafted over Durant. I agree McGrady shouldn't be on the list. Oden was not a monster in college. He was a project and gained notoriety for shooting free throws left-handed. He actually did well in the National Championship against Noah, but I think he only averaged around 10 or 12 points a game. |
Author: | JORR [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:12 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player. If that's how we're doing it, it probably is Oden. The question was who would have had a better career if they didn't get injured. Oh, okay, I just noticed that. There's not enough evidence to make a case for Oden. It would have to be Hill or Hardaway. I'd say they're pretty similar. |
Author: | leashyourkids [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:13 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player. If that's how we're doing it, it probably is Oden. The question was who would have had a better career if they didn't get injured. Oh, okay, I just noticed that. There's not enough evidence to make a case for Oden. It would have to be Hill or Hardaway. I'd say they're pretty similar. READ. THE. THREAD. |
Author: | Nas [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:27 pm ] |
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leashyourkids wrote: Nas wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Nas wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Grant Hill > Penny > McGrady That must be based on feelings because it's not based on numbers. Based purely on talent. Hill would have been a top 10 player of all-time and Penny would have been a top 25 player. McGrady is pretty much where he would have been. That's somewhere around a top 80 player. Like DB said T-Mac shouldn't even he on here - his career wasn't cut short as early as the careers of Penny, Hill, and maybe Roy were. I have no idea what Oden is doing here - didn't he flop and/or get injured from day one? Oden was a monster in college and he was drafted over Durant. I agree McGrady shouldn't be on the list. Oden was not a monster in college. He was a project and gained notoriety for shooting free throws left-handed. He actually did well in the National Championship against Noah, but I think he only averaged around 10 or 12 points a game. Not true. He was coming off an injury and still averaged close to 20 and 10 with like 4 blocks. All while playing with his opposite hand. |
Author: | leashyourkids [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:30 pm ] |
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Well, we're both off by four because he averaged 15.9. He did play with his left hand, but he wasn't a monster. Can't call a 7-footer who averages 16 and almost 10 a monster. I was never high on the guy. He always seemed slow, methodical, and hesitant. |
Author: | Jbi11s [ Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:35 pm ] |
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Yeah, Oden's injuries derailed what would have been one hell of a career. Him and Dwight going at it in their mid-20's could have been one of those all time great rivalries. I also think Oden was willing, and serious about becoming the best basketball player he could be. Unlike Dwight mugging for the camera, and acting like a spoiled child throughout his career. |
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