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Gonna finish in the top 5 MVP voting next season

Pax fucked up again, could have gotten more for him 5 months ago. This draft had 5 guys who are going to be great and Ball ain't one of em, so those too 6- 8 picks were very valuable this year. A team would have ponied up more if they had Jimmy for the playoff run this year. Pax got fleeced.

312player wrote:

Gar could have gotten the 1st pick and the another pick without giving up their own pick.

Nas wrote:

312player wrote:

Gar could have gotten the 1st pick and the another pick without giving up their own pick.

How do you figure that?

RFDC wrote:

Nas wrote:

312player wrote:

Gar could have gotten the 1st pick and the another pick without giving up their own pick.

How do you figure that?

Boston was going to give the Bulls 2 picks at the deadline. One of those picks would have been the #1 pick. The Bulls wanted their players instead.

Nas wrote:

RFDC wrote:

Nas wrote:

312player wrote:

Gar could have gotten the 1st pick and the another pick without giving up their own pick.

How do you figure that?

Boston was going to give the Bulls 2 picks at the deadline. One of those picks would have been the #1 pick. The Bulls wanted their players instead.

I dont think there is any real certainty with that.

FavreFan wrote:

Gonna finish in the top 5 MVP voting next season

Nope

Westbrook
Durant
Curry
LBJ
Harden
Leonard

Butler is going to score 30+ PPG in the West.

This was Minnesota's last summer to really play around with its core, on its terms. The Wolves aimed big, flipping LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 pick to the aimless Bulls for Jimmy Butler -- a top-10 player in the league last season, smack in the middle of his absolute prime -- and a draft pick.

I got Jimmy at 24 PPG, 7 RPG, 5.5 APG, 27 PER next season. I see no reason why his yearly improvement won't continue.

Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba

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They might have been able to get more at last February's trade deadline had they gone all-in on rebuilding then. Boston was willing to offer a healthy package centered around expiring contracts and future picks -- including the 2017 Nets pick, perhaps with top-1 protection -- if they could retain most of their present-day core, sources told ESPN.com (and others) at the time. Instead, the two sides haggled over Crowder, sources have told ESPN.com. Chicago wanted him, along with picks. Boston wanted to keep him, pair him with Butler, and make an honest run at LeBron James. The deal died, and now Chicago wants to go young

FavreFan wrote:

Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba

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here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got

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Bagels wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba

Key excerpt:

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here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got

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This alone should get Gar Forman fired. I'm reading Uncle Jerry's son was behind it too.

Crowder's certainly a solid player, but what the hell good was he going to do the Bulls in a rebuilding phase ? He's more of a complimentary player on a contender, definitely not a building block

Nas wrote:

Bagels wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba

Key excerpt:

Quote:

here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got

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This alone should get Gar Forman fired. I'm reading Uncle Jerry's son was behind it too.

Why just Gar? Pax is knee deep in this shit as well

RFDC wrote:

Nas wrote:

Bagels wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba

Key excerpt:

Quote:

here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got

Quote:

This alone should get Gar Forman fired. I'm reading Uncle Jerry's son was behind it too.

Why just Gar? Pax is knee deep in this shit as well

Paxson was pushing for a rebuild since last summer.

what exactly does Paxson do ? :lol:

RFDC wrote:

Nas wrote:

Bagels wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba

Key excerpt:

Quote:

here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got

Quote:

This alone should get Gar Forman fired. I'm reading Uncle Jerry's son was behind it too.

Why just Gar? Pax is knee deep in this shit as well

Paxson was pushing for a rebuild since last summer.

Bagels wrote:

what exactly does Paxson do ? :lol:

Signs off on horrendous trades and draft picks and hides from the media. Not sure what other responsibilities he has.

what exactly does Paxson do ? :lol:

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Jimmy Butler
Gonna finish in the top 5 MVP voting next season

Author:	Nas [ Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
FavreFan wrote: Gonna finish in the top 5 MVP voting next season No chance in he'll. Wager?

Author:	IkeSouth [ Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
He went to a small market team

Author:	312player [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:27 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Pax fucked up again, could have gotten more for him 5 months ago. This draft had 5 guys who are going to be great and Ball ain't one of em, so those too 6- 8 picks were very valuable this year. A team would have ponied up more if they had Jimmy for the playoff run this year. Pax got fleeced.

Author:	veganfan21 [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:33 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
FavreFan wrote: Gonna finish in the top 5 MVP voting next season Nope Westbrook Durant Curry LBJ Harden Leonard

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Author:	Nas [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:28 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
312player wrote: Pax fucked up again, could have gotten more for him 5 months ago. This draft had 5 guys who are going to be great and Ball ain't one of em, so those too 6- 8 picks were very valuable this year. A team would have ponied up more if they had Jimmy for the playoff run this year. Pax got fleeced. Gar could have gotten the 1st pick and the another pick without giving up their own pick.

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Nas wrote: 312player wrote: Pax fucked up again, could have gotten more for him 5 months ago. This draft had 5 guys who are going to be great and Ball ain't one of em, so those too 6- 8 picks were very valuable this year. A team would have ponied up more if they had Jimmy for the playoff run this year. Pax got fleeced. Gar could have gotten the 1st pick and the another pick without giving up their own pick. How do you figure that?

Author:	Nas [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:53 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
RFDC wrote: Nas wrote: 312player wrote: Pax fucked up again, could have gotten more for him 5 months ago. This draft had 5 guys who are going to be great and Ball ain't one of em, so those too 6- 8 picks were very valuable this year. A team would have ponied up more if they had Jimmy for the playoff run this year. Pax got fleeced. Gar could have gotten the 1st pick and the another pick without giving up their own pick. How do you figure that? Boston was going to give the Bulls 2 picks at the deadline. One of those picks would have been the #1 pick. The Bulls wanted their players instead.

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Nas wrote: RFDC wrote: Nas wrote: 312player wrote: Pax fucked up again, could have gotten more for him 5 months ago. This draft had 5 guys who are going to be great and Ball ain't one of em, so those too 6- 8 picks were very valuable this year. A team would have ponied up more if they had Jimmy for the playoff run this year. Pax got fleeced. Gar could have gotten the 1st pick and the another pick without giving up their own pick. How do you figure that? Boston was going to give the Bulls 2 picks at the deadline. One of those picks would have been the #1 pick. The Bulls wanted their players instead. I dont think there is any real certainty with that.

Author:	Nas [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:02 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
RFDC wrote: Nas wrote: RFDC wrote: Nas wrote: 312player wrote: Pax fucked up again, could have gotten more for him 5 months ago. This draft had 5 guys who are going to be great and Ball ain't one of em, so those too 6- 8 picks were very valuable this year. A team would have ponied up more if they had Jimmy for the playoff run this year. Pax got fleeced. Gar could have gotten the 1st pick and the another pick without giving up their own pick. How do you figure that? Boston was going to give the Bulls 2 picks at the deadline. One of those picks would have been the #1 pick. The Bulls wanted their players instead. I dont think there is any real certainty with that. It was reported by MANY. The Celtics offered picks and Gar wanted players.

Author:	FavreFan [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:59 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
veganfan21 wrote: FavreFan wrote: Gonna finish in the top 5 MVP voting next season Nope Westbrook Durant Curry LBJ Harden Leonard He's gonna finish ahead of all those guys except for Kawhi. I'm not saying he's gonna be a top 5 player next year. It'll be like when Noah came 4th. It's just gonna be one of the stories of next year I think.

Author:	IMU [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Butler is going to score 30+ PPG in the West.

Author:	Nas [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
IMU wrote: Butler is going to score 30+ PPG in the West. No chance. He'll average around 20 and play great defense because he doesn't have to score all of the points. If they can grab a player in free agency and stop trying to dump Rubio the Wolves should be a top 4 team in the West.

Author:	FavreFan [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
I got Jimmy at 24 PPG, 7 RPG, 5.5 APG, 27 PER next season. I see no reason why his yearly improvement won't continue.

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Author:	FavreFan [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba Key excerpt: Quote: This was Minnesota's last summer to really play around with its core, on its terms. The Wolves aimed big, flipping LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 pick to the aimless Bulls for Jimmy Butler -- a top-10 player in the league last season, smack in the middle of his absolute prime -- and a draft pick.

Author:	Nas [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
FavreFan wrote: I got Jimmy at 24 PPG, 7 RPG, 5.5 APG, 27 PER next season. I see no reason why his yearly improvement won't continue. Because the Wolves have players that can score. He doesn't need to carry the load. He can save himself until it matters.

Author:	Bagels [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
FavreFan wrote: Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba Key excerpt: Quote: This was Minnesota's last summer to really play around with its core, on its terms. The Wolves aimed big, flipping LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 pick to the aimless Bulls for Jimmy Butler -- a top-10 player in the league last season, smack in the middle of his absolute prime -- and a draft pick. here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got Quote: They might have been able to get more at last February's trade deadline had they gone all-in on rebuilding then. Boston was willing to offer a healthy package centered around expiring contracts and future picks -- including the 2017 Nets pick, perhaps with top-1 protection -- if they could retain most of their present-day core, sources told ESPN.com (and others) at the time. Instead, the two sides haggled over Crowder, sources have told ESPN.com. Chicago wanted him, along with picks. Boston wanted to keep him, pair him with Butler, and make an honest run at LeBron James. The deal died, and now Chicago wants to go young

Author:	Nas [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Bagels wrote: FavreFan wrote: Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba Key excerpt: Quote: This was Minnesota's last summer to really play around with its core, on its terms. The Wolves aimed big, flipping LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 pick to the aimless Bulls for Jimmy Butler -- a top-10 player in the league last season, smack in the middle of his absolute prime -- and a draft pick. here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got Quote: They might have been able to get more at last February's trade deadline had they gone all-in on rebuilding then. Boston was willing to offer a healthy package centered around expiring contracts and future picks -- including the 2017 Nets pick, perhaps with top-1 protection -- if they could retain most of their present-day core, sources told ESPN.com (and others) at the time. Instead, the two sides haggled over Crowder, sources have told ESPN.com. Chicago wanted him, along with picks. Boston wanted to keep him, pair him with Butler, and make an honest run at LeBron James. The deal died, and now Chicago wants to go young This alone should get Gar Forman fired. I'm reading Uncle Jerry's son was behind it too.

Author:	Bagels [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Crowder's certainly a solid player, but what the hell good was he going to do the Bulls in a rebuilding phase ? He's more of a complimentary player on a contender, definitely not a building block

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Nas wrote: Bagels wrote: FavreFan wrote: Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba Key excerpt: Quote: This was Minnesota's last summer to really play around with its core, on its terms. The Wolves aimed big, flipping LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 pick to the aimless Bulls for Jimmy Butler -- a top-10 player in the league last season, smack in the middle of his absolute prime -- and a draft pick. here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got Quote: They might have been able to get more at last February's trade deadline had they gone all-in on rebuilding then. Boston was willing to offer a healthy package centered around expiring contracts and future picks -- including the 2017 Nets pick, perhaps with top-1 protection -- if they could retain most of their present-day core, sources told ESPN.com (and others) at the time. Instead, the two sides haggled over Crowder, sources have told ESPN.com. Chicago wanted him, along with picks. Boston wanted to keep him, pair him with Butler, and make an honest run at LeBron James. The deal died, and now Chicago wants to go young This alone should get Gar Forman fired. I'm reading Uncle Jerry's son was behind it too. Why just Gar? Pax is knee deep in this shit as well

Author:	Nas [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Bagels wrote: Crowder's certainly a solid player, but what the hell good was he going to do the Bulls in a rebuilding phase ? He's more of a complimentary player on a contender, definitely not a building block Agreed. Definitely not a player you build around. TAKE THE PICKS!

Author:	FavreFan [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Nas wrote: RFDC wrote: Nas wrote: Bagels wrote: FavreFan wrote: Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba Key excerpt: Quote: This was Minnesota's last summer to really play around with its core, on its terms. The Wolves aimed big, flipping LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 pick to the aimless Bulls for Jimmy Butler -- a top-10 player in the league last season, smack in the middle of his absolute prime -- and a draft pick. here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got Quote: They might have been able to get more at last February's trade deadline had they gone all-in on rebuilding then. Boston was willing to offer a healthy package centered around expiring contracts and future picks -- including the 2017 Nets pick, perhaps with top-1 protection -- if they could retain most of their present-day core, sources told ESPN.com (and others) at the time. Instead, the two sides haggled over Crowder, sources have told ESPN.com. Chicago wanted him, along with picks. Boston wanted to keep him, pair him with Butler, and make an honest run at LeBron James. The deal died, and now Chicago wants to go young This alone should get Gar Forman fired. I'm reading Uncle Jerry's son was behind it too. Why just Gar? Pax is knee deep in this shit as well Paxson was pushing for a rebuild since last summer. I don't think I believe that. Isn't he technically Gar's boss?

Author:	Bagels [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
what exactly does Paxson do ?

Author:	FavreFan [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Bagels wrote: what exactly does Paxson do ? Signs off on horrendous trades and draft picks and hides from the media. Not sure what other responsibilities he has.

Author:	Walt Williams Neck [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Nas wrote: RFDC wrote: Nas wrote: Bagels wrote: FavreFan wrote: Zach Lowe is the best basketball writer in the country. Here is his take on the trade: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/pr ... -bulls-nba Key excerpt: Quote: This was Minnesota's last summer to really play around with its core, on its terms. The Wolves aimed big, flipping LaVine, Kris Dunn and the No. 7 pick to the aimless Bulls for Jimmy Butler -- a top-10 player in the league last season, smack in the middle of his absolute prime -- and a draft pick. here's another excerpt for ltg, who keeps falsely claiming this was the best they could have got Quote: They might have been able to get more at last February's trade deadline had they gone all-in on rebuilding then. Boston was willing to offer a healthy package centered around expiring contracts and future picks -- including the 2017 Nets pick, perhaps with top-1 protection -- if they could retain most of their present-day core, sources told ESPN.com (and others) at the time. Instead, the two sides haggled over Crowder, sources have told ESPN.com. Chicago wanted him, along with picks. Boston wanted to keep him, pair him with Butler, and make an honest run at LeBron James. The deal died, and now Chicago wants to go young This alone should get Gar Forman fired. I'm reading Uncle Jerry's son was behind it too. Why just Gar? Pax is knee deep in this shit as well Paxson was pushing for a rebuild since last summer. That's a crock of shit...why get Wade and Rondo?????

Author:	ZephMarshack [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
FavreFan wrote: Bagels wrote: what exactly does Paxson do ? Signs off on horrendous trades and draft picks and hides from the media. Not sure what other responsibilities he has. He also announces yearly that he'll be taking a more active role in the Bulls decision making in the future. That way if they're successful he can take the credit and if they're not, he can say he'll be taking a more active role in the Bulls decision making in the future (so any disappointment is really Gar's fault).

Author:	FavreFan [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Walt Williams Neck wrote: https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/878312604090810368 He continues to prove leash wrong about him. Bravo, Jimmy

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Jimmy Butler
Bagels wrote: what exactly does Paxson do ? no kidding. if paxson wanted a rebuild before then they should be doing it then. If Pax let Gar talk him into waiting then that is even more reason why Pax should be gone now as well.