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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Talking current coaches here. We can update this from what Nas mentioned in the Wolves thread. Who ya got? 1. Popovich 2. Rick Carlisle 3. Brad Stephens 4. Eric Spoelstra 5. Tom Thibodeau |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
I would probably put Stevens #2. At some point it's "what have you done for me lately" when rating Carlisle. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
I agree on the top 5, but would have a different order. 1. Popp 2 Stevens 3 Carlisle 4. Thibbs 5. Spoelstra |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
I'm just glad no one puts Kerr in the top 5 |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Nas wrote: I would probably put Stevens #2. At some point it's "what have you done for me lately" when rating Carlisle. Last year and this year the Mavs have had arguably the least talented team in the NBA. Before last year, his record and resume was unassailable. This year his team is total dogshit and yet is still a better defensive team than almost half the league. He's the goods. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Nas wrote: I'm just glad no one puts Kerr in the top 5 I like him a lot but it's just impossible to grade him, especially since Walton did so well in his absence. Spoelstra probably wouldnt have made my top 10 when LeBron was on the team. He showed what he was about last season though. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
FavreFan wrote: Nas wrote: I'm just glad no one puts Kerr in the top 5 I like him a lot but it's just impossible to grade him, especially since Walton did so well in his absence. Spoelstra probably wouldnt have made my top 10 when LeBron was on the team. He showed what he was about last season though. Completely agree. Spoelstra is the goods. Riley and Ainge had great eyes. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Kerr would be 6 on my list, but it is really hard to judge him with his team. He could be a top 3 coach or he could be a out of the top 10. Need to see him after this great run of superstars. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Popovich Carlisle Stephens Doc Rivers Stan Van Gundy. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
FF used to be a Doc lover too. Never been a fan and he's been getting exposed every year since the last trip to the Finals. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Nas wrote: FF used to be a Doc lover too. Never been a fan and he's been getting exposed every year since the last trip to the Finals. Yeah, it's hard to argue now. I guess it was more of "perfect coach for the right team at the right time" a la Ditka than it was Doc actually being a good coach. Still, his Celtics never lost a playoff series in which all five starters were healthy. He did an amazing job with that team. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Nas wrote: FF used to be a Doc lover too. Never been a fan and he's been getting exposed every year since the last trip to the Finals. His best players were injured during each postseason that he has been the coach of the Clippers. I don't fault guys for that. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
I think I would rate Kerr slightly higher than all you |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Bagels wrote: I think I would rate Kerr slightly higher than all you Your dime your dance floor, amigo. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Where does D'Antoni fit? He created the offensive system that is all the rage currently. Never been a huge fan but Houston's whole last season was better than the sum of the parts. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
long time guy wrote: Where does D'Antoni fit? He created the offensive system that is all the rage currently. Never been a huge fan but Houston's whole last season was better than the sum of the parts. I'd have him in my 10-15 range most likely. Good regular season coach. I think you can throw out the Knicks years since they are the Knicks. Can't put a coach in the top 10 if he consistently underachieves in the postseason though. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
FavreFan wrote: Bagels wrote: I think I would rate Kerr slightly higher than all you Your dime your dance floor, amigo. Well, I do agree with the general consensus that mainly has Popp, Stephens , Carlisle, Spoelstea in the top 4 but I do think he's 5 or 6 at worst. I think he does a good job juggling minutes and egos and does make some bold moves at times...he's played younger players in key situations like Bell on Xmas day. He keeps everyone engaged |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
"Doc Rivers"
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
veganfan21 wrote: "Doc Rivers" “Don't bow down to critics who have not themselves written great masterpieces.” ― Lawrence Ferlinghetti |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
FavreFan wrote: veganfan21 wrote: "Doc Rivers" “Don't bow down to critics who have not themselves written great masterpieces.” ― Lawrence Ferlinghetti Masterpieces have expiration dates. His last masterpiece was ten years ago. Nothing since then. He also crossed a line when he traded for his son. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
veganfan21 wrote: FavreFan wrote: veganfan21 wrote: "Doc Rivers" “Don't bow down to critics who have not themselves written great masterpieces.” ― Lawrence Ferlinghetti Masterpieces have expiration dates. His last masterpiece was ten years ago. Nothing since then. He also crossed a line when he traded for his son.  That was supposed to bait you into giving your own top 5. You continue to disappoint me my friend. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Also, I don’t think masterpieces have expiration dates
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| Author: | IMU [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
Spoelstra and Rivers should be nowhere near Top 5 lists. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
IMU wrote: Spoelstra and Rivers should be nowhere near Top 5 lists. What’s the argument against Spoelstra? |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
FavreFan wrote: veganfan21 wrote: FavreFan wrote: veganfan21 wrote: "Doc Rivers" “Don't bow down to critics who have not themselves written great masterpieces.” ― Lawrence Ferlinghetti Masterpieces have expiration dates. His last masterpiece was ten years ago. Nothing since then. He also crossed a line when he traded for his son. That was supposed to bait you into giving your own top 5. You continue to disappoint me my friend. Quotes from poets are for metrosexuals suffering identify crises. Just be direct. In no order: Pop Thibs Carlisle Kerr Stevens |
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| Author: | IMU [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
FavreFan wrote: IMU wrote: Spoelstra and Rivers should be nowhere near Top 5 lists. What’s the argument against Spoelstra? For me, it comes down to two things: 1) Outside of the LeBron years, he is 234-210 for a .527 winning percentage. Not terrible, but considering some of the players he had at the time, not great. Additionally, in those same 5 seasons, he missed the playoffs twice and went 11-15 in the other 3 postseasons. 2) LeBron thinks he sucks, and when it comes to basketball I trust LeBron. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
IMU wrote: FavreFan wrote: IMU wrote: Spoelstra and Rivers should be nowhere near Top 5 lists. What’s the argument against Spoelstra? For me, it comes down to two things: 1) Outside of the LeBron years, he is 234-210 for a .527 winning percentage. Not terrible, but considering some of the players he had at the time, not great. Additionally, in those same 5 seasons, he missed the playoffs twice and went 11-15 in the other 3 postseasons. 2) LeBron thinks he sucks, and when it comes to basketball I trust LeBron. I would need a source for #2 and I disagree entirely with your conclusion to #1. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
I am not sure superstars should be trusted on their opinions on coaches. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
RFDC wrote: I am not sure superstars should be trusted on their opinions on coaches. Why? Their voices absolutely mean a lot. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top 5 NBA Coaches |
veganfan21 wrote: RFDC wrote: I am not sure superstars should be trusted on their opinions on coaches. Why? Their voices absolutely mean a lot. Sure their voices me a lot, but many times they see things completely selfishly. A good coach is not judged just through the eyes of the best player, but by the entire team |
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