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| Author: | IMU [ Mon May 07, 2018 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Pippen or Wade? You're building a team...your first pick is between these two players, and their career performance will not differentiate from what they had. Who is better? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 07, 2018 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
It’s really close. If I’m building a team I guess I go Wade because it’s likely easier to find guys that compliment him than it would be to find a superstar scorer. If I have my star scorer in place I would obviously go Pippen. Either way I think it’s closer than MANY will say. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon May 07, 2018 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
I never liked Wade but it would be close. I take Scott Pippen. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon May 07, 2018 9:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Does Wade play D like pippin did? I dont think so. Nobody plays Defense anymore. Maybe his style would be a thing in today's NBA. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 07, 2018 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Darkside wrote: Does Wade play D like pippin did? I dont think so. Nobody plays Defense anymore. Maybe his style would be a thing in today's NBA.  Yes, players play defense still. Fun fact: Wade leads all guards all time in blocks. He was not a bad defensive player at all. But of course Pippen was way better on that side. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon May 07, 2018 9:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
FavreFan wrote: Darkside wrote: Does Wade play D like pippin did? I dont think so. Nobody plays Defense anymore. Maybe his style would be a thing in today's NBA. Yes, players play defense still. Fun fact: Wade leads all guards all time in blocks. He was not a bad defensive player at all. But of course Pippen was way better on that side. No they don't. I win. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon May 07, 2018 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
I'll go with the balck one. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
I cant go against Pippen. Wade is an all time great player, but I have to go Pip. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
I've despised DWade for years, but I'd easily take him over Pippen |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Pippen. I don't think it's that close. Wade is a great player but Pippen was a much more versatile two-way player. Don't tell him I said that! |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
FavreFan wrote: Darkside wrote: Does Wade play D like pippin did? I dont think so. Nobody plays Defense anymore. Maybe his style would be a thing in today's NBA. Yes, players play defense still. Fun fact: Wade leads all guards all time in blocks. He was not a bad defensive player at all. But of course Pippen was way better on that side. Jordan had more blocks than Wade. |
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| Author: | Ron Wolfley [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Wade. It’s not close. This question is dumb. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:32 pm ] |
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Ron Wolfley wrote: Wade. It’s not close. This question is dumb. Without looking it up would you care to guess who had more all NBA first team appearances? |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
veganfan21 wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Wade. It’s not close. This question is dumb. Without looking it up would you care to guess who had more all NBA first team appearances? Come on. Will you make the same argument in an attempt to claim Steve Nash was better than Kobe since he doubled him in MVP trophies? |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Wade... What's with the dumb hoops polls lately? |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Regular Reader wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Wade. It’s not close. This question is dumb. Without looking it up would you care to guess who had more all NBA first team appearances? Come on. Will you make the same argument in an attempt to claim Steve Nash was better than Kobe since he doubled him in MVP trophies? It depends. Would that argument irritate you? |
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| Author: | Ron Wolfley [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
veganfan21 wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Wade. It’s not close. This question is dumb. Without looking it up would you care to guess who had more all NBA first team appearances? Means nothing to me. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:37 pm ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: FavreFan wrote: Darkside wrote: Does Wade play D like pippin did? I dont think so. Nobody plays Defense anymore. Maybe his style would be a thing in today's NBA. Yes, players play defense still. Fun fact: Wade leads all guards all time in blocks. He was not a bad defensive player at all. But of course Pippen was way better on that side. Jordan had more blocks than Wade. I guess it was blocks per game I was thinking of. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Pippen. I don't think it's that close. Wade is a great player but Pippen was a much more versatile two-way player. Don't tell him I said that! Prime Wade was a great two way player. He stopped giving a shit around the time LeBron got there. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:42 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Pippen. I don't think it's that close. Wade is a great player but Pippen was a much more versatile two-way player. Don't tell him I said that! Prime Wade was a great two way player. He stopped giving a shit around the time LeBron got there. Pippen could guard anyone on the court for periods of time when necessary. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Regular Reader wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Wade. It’s not close. This question is dumb. Without looking it up would you care to guess who had more all NBA first team appearances? Come on. Will you make the same argument in an attempt to claim Steve Nash was better than Kobe since he doubled him in MVP trophies? It's more than enough evidence to say that both are equals, or close to being equals. Not sure why everyone is saying it's a no brainer either way. Wade was superior offensively - Pippen was better defensively and held his own on offense. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
It’s Wade, and it’s not that close. Also, I love Pippen. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: FavreFan wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Pippen. I don't think it's that close. Wade is a great player but Pippen was a much more versatile two-way player. Don't tell him I said that! Prime Wade was a great two way player. He stopped giving a shit around the time LeBron got there. Pippen could guard anyone on the court for periods of time when necessary. Of course. Pippen is one of the best defensive players ever. Wade at his best was also one of the best players in the NBA, and led a team to a title with a dominating performance in the postseason. For a 6 year stretch or so he was of the most electric, dominant players in the league. Like I said, it’s close. You’re getting a higher ceiling with Wade but a more consistently all around great player in Pippen. They’re both easily among the best players of their generation. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
FavreFan wrote: Either way I think it’s closer than MANY will say. This was pretty accurate. Love how it’s roughly a 50/50 reply rate so far and like half the comments are saying it’s not close. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Pippen and it's not even close. Pippen could have averaged 25 in the Jordan years if Jordan wasn't taking all of the shots. That's about what Wade was averaging in his prime. And the defense puts it over the top. For what it was, Pippen was averaging about 20 during the Jordan years. The first year without Jordan, Pippen lead the Bulls to 55 wins. And a bad call knocked them out of the playoffs. Then he took Portland to a game 7 vs the Lakers and lost in a close game. That would have been his 7th finals. In Pippen's first year without Jordan he averaged 22 and shot 49%. Should have won the MVP that year. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
veganfan21 wrote: Regular Reader wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Ron Wolfley wrote: Wade. It’s not close. This question is dumb. Without looking it up would you care to guess who had more all NBA first team appearances? Come on. Will you make the same argument in an attempt to claim Steve Nash was better than Kobe since he doubled him in MVP trophies? It's more than enough evidence to say that both are equals, or close to being equals. Not sure why everyone is saying it's a no brainer either way. Wade was superior offensively - Pippen was better defensively and held his own on offense. When you’re overpowering offensively and still a very good defensive player it’s better than great offense and great defense. For their careers and specifically the OP question I think it’s really close. I think Wade is the easy answer if the question is who was the better player at their best. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
I dont get the comments saying it isnt close. Two all time great players. How could this not be a close call? Either way you go your team is in good hands to start out |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
RFDC wrote: I dont get the comments saying it isnt close. Two all time great players. How could this not be a close call? Either way you go your team is in good hands to start out Agreed. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Didn't want to go here, but not having a good clutch mid range jumper matters. See 1.8. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon May 07, 2018 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wade or Pippen? Better overall individual player. |
Regular Reader wrote: Didn't want to go here, but not having a good clutch mid range jumper matters. See 1.8. I know. I forgive him for that. He didn't want the cracker Croatian taking the shot. Give him a break. |
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