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Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:49 am ]
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2412 ... ar-derozan

Author:  FrankDrebin [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:56 am ]
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Well, might as well shoot for the stars for one year. I think the Raptors peaked last year; Lowry is a year older. Loved the line that neither is showing much enthusiasm about the deal.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:01 am ]
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FrankDrebin wrote:
Well, might as well shoot for the stars for one year. I think the Raptors peaked last year; Lowry is a year older. Loved the line that neither is showing much enthusiasm about the deal.


DeRozan claims there is no loyalty in the game anymore because he was traded. But it was for a guy who forced his way out. NBA execs are fucked these days.

Author:  312player [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:51 am ]
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Love it.. Knew they wouldn't bend over for him and send him to fagic.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:55 am ]
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Suck Danny Green had to go but that’s a good return. Pop does it again.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:57 am ]
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Is Kawhi going fake injuries all year or half-ass it until he can get to LA?

Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:29 am ]
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This trade does not make Toronto better one bit.

Author:  RFDC [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:03 am ]
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That is a final FUCK YOU to Kawhi from San Antonio....sending him to Toronto :lol:

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:37 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Suck Danny Green had to go but that’s a good return. Pop does it again.

Does what again?

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:37 am ]
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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Suck Danny Green had to go but that’s a good return. Pop does it again.

Does what again?

Pulls off a great move with almost zero leverage.

Author:  ZephMarshack [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:39 am ]
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Like this a lot for both teams.

Author:  Douchebag [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:58 am ]
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So I would assume this is an all-in move by Toronto? They're hoping that they make a run to the finals, Kawhi wins a title, and then somehow falls in love with the city? Anything short of a championship and he is definitely one and done.

Author:  ZephMarshack [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:03 am ]
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Douchebag wrote:
So I would assume this is an all-in move by Toronto? They're hoping that they make a run to the finals, Kawhi wins a title, and then somehow falls in love with the city? Anything short of a championship and he is definitely one and done.

It kind of is but even if that doesn't happen they're now out of DeRozan's contract and got another expiring with Green which makes a blowup/rebuild much easier.

Author:  RFDC [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:47 am ]
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Douchebag wrote:
So I would assume this is an all-in move by Toronto? They're hoping that they make a run to the finals, Kawhi wins a title, and then somehow falls in love with the city? Anything short of a championship and he is definitely one and done.

Yep that is exactly what it is. THey hope in this year after Lebron is gone they can somehow win it all.

Probably not going to happen, but appreciate their willingness to go for it. They were not winning it all with Derozan

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:52 am ]
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I think the blowup happens mid season. I don’t think Kawhi will be a Raptor by March.

Author:  ZephMarshack [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:02 pm ]
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I dunno, I think Kawhi has to play and play well. Impact Sports have even less leverage now than the remarkably low amount they had before. The only way I see him being moved again is if Lebron gets pissed and impatient during the season and tells Magic to make a really dumb trade. And even that's unlikely because Magic really doesn't have to listen to him due to his 4 year contract.

And if Leonard does play Toronto's perimeter defense is going to put them in contention to win the East until the very end, even with Hayward and Irving playing for Boston.

Author:  RFDC [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:02 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
I think the blowup happens mid season. I don’t think Kawhi will be a Raptor by March.

yeah probably. He is not happy with this at all, possible he never plays for them

Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:22 pm ]
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I wouldn't think anything needs to be blown up for any team in the East. With LeBron gone, there's no telling how things play out in that conference.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:31 pm ]
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ZephMarshack wrote:
I dunno, I think Kawhi has to play and play well. Impact Sports have even less leverage now than the remarkably low amount they had before. The only way I see him being moved again is if Lebron gets pissed and impatient during the season and tells Magic to make a really dumb trade. And even that's unlikely because Magic really doesn't have to listen to him due to his 4 year contract.

And if Leonard does play Toronto's perimeter defense is going to put them in contention to win the East until the very end, even with Hayward and Irving playing for Boston.

But he only puts them in contention if he’s playing his hardest. I don’t see that as likely this season.

Author:  ZephMarshack [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:35 pm ]
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I have a hard time seeing Leonard himself sandbagging and if he does that's gonna create just as many problems for the union as if he tries to sit out entirely.

Author:  shakes [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:52 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
This trade does not make Toronto better one bit.


hot take alert! Derozan = Kawhi

Author:  shakes [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:54 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
I dunno, I think Kawhi has to play and play well. Impact Sports have even less leverage now than the remarkably low amount they had before. The only way I see him being moved again is if Lebron gets pissed and impatient during the season and tells Magic to make a really dumb trade. And even that's unlikely because Magic really doesn't have to listen to him due to his 4 year contract.

And if Leonard does play Toronto's perimeter defense is going to put them in contention to win the East until the very end, even with Hayward and Irving playing for Boston.

But he only puts them in contention if he’s playing his hardest. I don’t see that as likely this season.



Why would he not play hard? He's auditioning for a massive contract next summer.

Author:  312player [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:55 pm ]
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ZephMarshack wrote:
I have a hard time seeing Leonard himself sandbagging and if he does that's gonna create just as many problems for the union as if he tries to sit out entirely.



He has no choice but to play hard and play well..unless he wants to make chump change after this season. The best thing he can do is audition for the rest of the league and show he's healthy and not a cancer in the locker room.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:26 pm ]
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shakes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
I dunno, I think Kawhi has to play and play well. Impact Sports have even less leverage now than the remarkably low amount they had before. The only way I see him being moved again is if Lebron gets pissed and impatient during the season and tells Magic to make a really dumb trade. And even that's unlikely because Magic really doesn't have to listen to him due to his 4 year contract.

And if Leonard does play Toronto's perimeter defense is going to put them in contention to win the East until the very end, even with Hayward and Irving playing for Boston.

But he only puts them in contention if he’s playing his hardest. I don’t see that as likely this season.



Why would he not play hard? He's auditioning for a massive contract next summer.

There’s almost nothing he can do short of getting injured to sabotage a max contract offer.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:42 pm ]
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shakes wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
This trade does not make Toronto better one bit.


hot take alert! Derozan = Kawhi

I don't think an injury prone Leonard is THAT much better than Derozan right now.

Author:  shakes [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:51 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
shakes wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
This trade does not make Toronto better one bit.


hot take alert! Derozan = Kawhi

I don't think an injury prone Leonard is THAT much better than Derozan right now.



an injured Leonard is worse than Derozan. That's about it.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:59 pm ]
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Leonard.will pout like last year. Games will be missed.

Author:  conns7901 [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:17 pm ]
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shakes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
I dunno, I think Kawhi has to play and play well. Impact Sports have even less leverage now than the remarkably low amount they had before. The only way I see him being moved again is if Lebron gets pissed and impatient during the season and tells Magic to make a really dumb trade. And even that's unlikely because Magic really doesn't have to listen to him due to his 4 year contract.

And if Leonard does play Toronto's perimeter defense is going to put them in contention to win the East until the very end, even with Hayward and Irving playing for Boston.

But he only puts them in contention if he’s playing his hardest. I don’t see that as likely this season.



Why would he not play hard? He's auditioning for a massive contract next summer.


He can fake an injury all season and get a max deal from the Lakers next summer.

Author:  pittmike [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:21 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote:
shakes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
I dunno, I think Kawhi has to play and play well. Impact Sports have even less leverage now than the remarkably low amount they had before. The only way I see him being moved again is if Lebron gets pissed and impatient during the season and tells Magic to make a really dumb trade. And even that's unlikely because Magic really doesn't have to listen to him due to his 4 year contract.

And if Leonard does play Toronto's perimeter defense is going to put them in contention to win the East until the very end, even with Hayward and Irving playing for Boston.

But he only puts them in contention if he’s playing his hardest. I don’t see that as likely this season.



Why would he not play hard? He's auditioning for a massive contract next summer.


He can fake an injury all season and get a max deal from the Lakers next summer.


That really is a shame that is true.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:02 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
shakes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
I dunno, I think Kawhi has to play and play well. Impact Sports have even less leverage now than the remarkably low amount they had before. The only way I see him being moved again is if Lebron gets pissed and impatient during the season and tells Magic to make a really dumb trade. And even that's unlikely because Magic really doesn't have to listen to him due to his 4 year contract.

And if Leonard does play Toronto's perimeter defense is going to put them in contention to win the East until the very end, even with Hayward and Irving playing for Boston.

But he only puts them in contention if he’s playing his hardest. I don’t see that as likely this season.



Why would he not play hard? He's auditioning for a massive contract next summer.


He can fake an injury all season and get a max deal from the Lakers next summer.


That really is a shame that is true.

It’s pretty true for every sport. If Rodgers or Bryce Harper did the same thing they’re still getting offered enormous money by multiple teams the following offseason.

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