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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | LeBron James |
I was a LeBron hater for more than a decade, but his level of sustained greatness over 20 years has never been seen before on the basketball court. Similar to Brady, he's beating Father Time. This puts him in the GOAT conversation, even with the 6 L's in the Finals. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
There’s some precedent in another sport where players performed extremely well at an age they should have been declining. Nobody wants to raise that comp for the NFL/NBA. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Caller Bob wrote: He's going to put a lot of records out of reach, and he's still playing above the rim with all of that weight. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Looter in a Riot |
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| Author: | Juiced [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Nas wrote: I was a LeBron hater for more than a decade, but his level of sustained greatness over 20 years has never been seen before on the basketball court. Similar to Brady, he's beating Father Time. This puts him in the GOAT conversation, even with the 6 L's in the Finals. Game management and not playing defense has prolonged his career. Not something I would brag about. |
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| Author: | Juiced [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Nas wrote: Caller Bob wrote: He's going to put a lot of records out of reach, and he's still playing above the rim with all of that weight. If this was true, then he would have dunked here and not put of a half hearted attempt at a layup. 
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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Juiced wrote: Nas wrote: I was a LeBron hater for more than a decade, but his level of sustained greatness over 20 years has never been seen before on the basketball court. Similar to Brady, he's beating Father Time. This puts him in the GOAT conversation, even with the 6 L's in the Finals. Game management and not playing defense has prolonged his career. Not something I would brag about. He's played more minutes and games than your favorite players. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Nas wrote: This puts him in the GOAT conversation He's been in the conversation for years. Short of winning 3 titles in a row at this point, he'll never be GOAT over Jordan.
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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Nas wrote: This puts him in the GOAT conversation He's been in the conversation for years. Short of winning 3 titles in a row at this point, he'll never be GOAT over Jordan.I'm a Kobe Stan, and I didn't like that he passed on the Bulls. I had to set a lot of pettiness aside to get here. |
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| Author: | Juiced [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Nas wrote: Juiced wrote: Nas wrote: I was a LeBron hater for more than a decade, but his level of sustained greatness over 20 years has never been seen before on the basketball court. Similar to Brady, he's beating Father Time. This puts him in the GOAT conversation, even with the 6 L's in the Finals. Game management and not playing defense has prolonged his career. Not something I would brag about. He's played more minutes and games than your favorite players. By playing defense like this 
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Juiced wrote: Nas wrote: Juiced wrote: Nas wrote: I was a LeBron hater for more than a decade, but his level of sustained greatness over 20 years has never been seen before on the basketball court. Similar to Brady, he's beating Father Time. This puts him in the GOAT conversation, even with the 6 L's in the Finals. Game management and not playing defense has prolonged his career. Not something I would brag about. He's played more minutes and games than your favorite players. By playing defense like this Jordan literally played no defense for 4 1/2 years during his career. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
The Best that ever was. The Best that ever will be. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Juiced wrote: Nas wrote: Juiced wrote: Nas wrote: I was a LeBron hater for more than a decade, but his level of sustained greatness over 20 years has never been seen before on the basketball court. Similar to Brady, he's beating Father Time. This puts him in the GOAT conversation, even with the 6 L's in the Finals. Game management and not playing defense has prolonged his career. Not something I would brag about. He's played more minutes and games than your favorite players. By playing defense like this I'm guessing they may have called a foul on the guy who was shooting. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
With apologies to Bill Russell, he’s one of the 3 greatest of all times, but him not being a closer will never put him above MJeff or Magic imho. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Regular Reader wrote: With apologies to Bill Russell, he’s one of the 3 greatest of all times, but him not being a closer will never put him above MJeff or Magic imho. Magic's a 4 time loser. I'm not putting him ahead of Kobe. He doesn't put himself ahead of Kobe either. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Nas wrote: Regular Reader wrote: With apologies to Bill Russell, he’s one of the 3 greatest of all times, but him not being a closer will never put him above MJeff or Magic imho. Magic's a 4 time loser. I'm not putting him ahead of Kobe. He doesn't put himself ahead of Kobe either. Magic is humble. He doesn't want you to hate him the way you hate Zeke. He's confident enough to know he was easily the best non-center and he doesn't need to boast about it. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Nice try Nas, but no one believes you. Next can you create a thread about how Nolan Ryan is the GOAT for baseball too |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Nas wrote: Regular Reader wrote: With apologies to Bill Russell, he’s one of the 3 greatest of all times, but him not being a closer will never put him above MJeff or Magic imho. Magic's a 4 time loser. I'm not putting him ahead of Kobe. He doesn't put himself ahead of Kobe either. I’ll leave you with two things: 1) 42, 15 & 7 jumping center in game 6 as a rookie & 2) Kareem was a disappointment in LA until Magic got there. Oh, and one Finals loss came four months before his public announcement of him getting HIV, one against arguably the greatest team of all time in Philly and one against Bird, who was a far better fourth quarter player than anyone except Michael. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: Regular Reader wrote: With apologies to Bill Russell, he’s one of the 3 greatest of all times, but him not being a closer will never put him above MJeff or Magic imho. Magic's a 4 time loser. I'm not putting him ahead of Kobe. He doesn't put himself ahead of Kobe either. Magic is humble. He doesn't want you to hate him the way you hate Zeke. He's confident enough to know he was easily the best non-center and he doesn't need to boast about it. Yeah, Magic does like to defer. Unlike Isiah, he never sounds bitter when doing it. He's comfortable in his skin. That being said, with the game on the line, I'm taking Bird over Magic every day of the week. Magic's the best PG, though. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Regular Reader wrote: Nas wrote: Regular Reader wrote: With apologies to Bill Russell, he’s one of the 3 greatest of all times, but him not being a closer will never put him above MJeff or Magic imho. Magic's a 4 time loser. I'm not putting him ahead of Kobe. He doesn't put himself ahead of Kobe either. I’ll leave you with two things: 1) 42, 15 & 7 jumping center in game 6 as a rookie & 2) Kareem was a disappointment in LA until Magic got there. Oh, and one Finals loss came four months before his public announcement of him getting HIV, one against arguably the greatest team of all time in Philly and one against Bird, who was a far better fourth quarter player than anyone except Michael. I love Magic. Little Nas read every book in the library that was about him. I'm a Kobe guy; it isn't personal with Magic. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
RFDC wrote: Nice try Nas, but no one believes you. Next can you create a thread about how Nolan Ryan is the GOAT for baseball too You mean Bob Gibson and Steve Carlton get no love from young Nas? Shocking! |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Nas wrote: Regular Reader wrote: Nas wrote: Regular Reader wrote: With apologies to Bill Russell, he’s one of the 3 greatest of all times, but him not being a closer will never put him above MJeff or Magic imho. Magic's a 4 time loser. I'm not putting him ahead of Kobe. He doesn't put himself ahead of Kobe either. I’ll leave you with two things: 1) 42, 15 & 7 jumping center in game 6 as a rookie & 2) Kareem was a disappointment in LA until Magic got there. Oh, and one Finals loss came four months before his public announcement of him getting HIV, one against arguably the greatest team of all time in Philly and one against Bird, who was a far better fourth quarter player than anyone except Michael. I love Magic. Little Nas read every book in the library that was about him. I'm a Kobe guy; it isn't personal with Magic. I liked Kobe, but he was a four time sidekick with one bad L and had an inconsistent jumper. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Regular Reader wrote: I liked Kobe, but he was a four time sidekick with one bad L and had an inconsistent jumper. Sounds like his career really crashed and burned.
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| Author: | Brick [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
What is the argument that LeBron is better than Kobe? Just like Aaron Rodgers, LeBron was on pace to pass everyone but MJ(Tom Brady) but he didn't have a good enough finish to his career to get close. |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Jordan Kobe Lebron I really hate(d) Lebron, but you have to acknowledge his greatness in keeping his body in incredible shape. He really plays no D anymore, and he's a massive massive whiner, but there may not be another one like him. He's an extension of the kind of player Magic was (with a way better jumper late in his career) and Oscar Robertson. Didn't win enough Finals for how good a player he was....still somewhat passive in big moments, that's what puts Kobe and Jordan over the top for me. |
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| Author: | Juiced [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
KDdidit wrote: Jordan literally played no defense for 4 1/2 years during his career. ok... 
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
About to pass Kareem in points to be #1. Kareem never seems to get mentioned in GOAT conversations. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
Jaw Breaker wrote: About to pass Kareem in points to be #1. Kareem never seems to get mentioned in GOAT conversations. He's not better than Wilt. |
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| Author: | The Missing Link [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LeBron James |
This Ends in Antioch wrote: There’s some precedent in another sport where players performed extremely well at an age they should have been declining. Nobody wants to raise that comp for the NFL/NBA. Not publicly they don't. There is such a thing known as "slander" you know. |
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