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Author:  veganfan21 [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:01 am ]
Post subject:  SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Quote:
Wade, arguably the best shooting guard of all-time, enjoyed 16 seasons in the NBA.


So is this an oversight or...? I've never seen this suggested before. I don't even think wade would suggest it.


https://www.si.com/nba/2023/03/29/dwyan ... per-report
Author:  JORR [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
The "GOAT" isn't a really thing. But if it is, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT unless you're a Bulls fan.
Author:  Nas [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
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Author:  Nardi [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The "GOAT" isn't a really thing. But if it is, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT unless you're a Bulls fan.

Something a godless secularist would say. Jordan was magical. His spirit captured the entire planet.

Anyway, thanks for your opinion, Sam Harris.
Author:  shakes [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The "GOAT" isn't a really thing. But if it is, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT unless you're a Bulls fan.


that's categorically false. some people think Lebron is the GOAT, but it's a small number compared to those who think it's MJ even amongst non Bulls fans.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The "GOAT" isn't a really thing. But if it is, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT unless you're a Bulls fan.


that's categorically false. some people think Lebron is the GOAT, but it's a small number compared to those who think it's MJ even amongst non Bulls fans.


Not true, non-Chicago people are not as narrow-minded about Jordan. Non-Chicago people also understand no one cares about Chicago outside of Chicago.
Author:  JORR [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The "GOAT" isn't a really thing. But if it is, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT unless you're a Bulls fan.


that's categorically false. some people think Lebron is the GOAT, but it's a small number compared to those who think it's MJ even amongst non Bulls fans.



Obviously you're biased from living in Deerfield which is to Bulls fans as The Vatican is to Catholics.
Author:  RFDC [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.


Would you take Wade over Miller? Wade is more skilled but...Miller was also great.
Author:  RFDC [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
veganfan21 wrote:
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.


Would you take Wade over Miller? Wade is more skilled but...Miller was also great.

I would probably have Miller a slight edge over Wade, but it would be close.
Author:  JORR [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.



Follow the logic here, Missourah.

Jordan was a SG.
Wade was a SG.
If Wade is the greatest SG of all time, he is greater than Jordan.

Is Wade the GOAT?
Author:  RFDC [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.



Follow the logic here, Missourah.

Jordan was a SG.
Wade was a SG.
If Wade is the greatest SG of all time, he is greater than Jordan.

Is Wade the GOAT?

That logic is what makes this statement so stupid. There is no universe where Wade is a greater SG than Jordan. I don't even think he would be in the top 5 all time at SG.

If you want to stay in your world of Jordan not being the GOAT that is fine, but thinking Wade is better than Jordan is just asinine
Author:  veganfan21 [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
That's why I brought up Miller. Is Wade better than Mitch Richmond?
Author:  RFDC [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
veganfan21 wrote:
That's why I brought up Miller. Is Wade better than Mitch Richmond?

yeah I would say he is over Richmond.

But not over Clyde Drexler
Author:  JORR [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
RFDC wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.



Follow the logic here, Missourah.

Jordan was a SG.
Wade was a SG.
If Wade is the greatest SG of all time, he is greater than Jordan.

Is Wade the GOAT?

That logic is what makes this statement so stupid. There is no universe where Wade is a greater SG than Jordan. I don't even think he would be in the top 5 all time at SG.

If you want to stay in your world of Jordan not being the GOAT that is fine, but thinking Wade is better than Jordan is just asinine



Agreed. I'm not sure Wade is in the top twenty shooting guards of all-time. But I understand these things are said by those who think Bird and Magic invented basketball.
Author:  shakes [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
veganfan21 wrote:
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The "GOAT" isn't a really thing. But if it is, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT unless you're a Bulls fan.


that's categorically false. some people think Lebron is the GOAT, but it's a small number compared to those who think it's MJ even amongst non Bulls fans.


Not true, non-Chicago people are not as narrow-minded about Jordan. Non-Chicago people also understand no one cares about Chicago outside of Chicago.


dude I post on Real GM NBA all the time (except when I'm banned) and you are 100% incorrect. Go over there and look at any number of the many GOAT polls. Every poster there is identified by the team they support. You couldn't be more full of crap with this take.
Author:  shakes [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.



Follow the logic here, Missourah.

Jordan was a SG.
Wade was a SG.
If Wade is the greatest SG of all time, he is greater than Jordan.

Is Wade the GOAT?

That logic is what makes this statement so stupid. There is no universe where Wade is a greater SG than Jordan. I don't even think he would be in the top 5 all time at SG.

If you want to stay in your world of Jordan not being the GOAT that is fine, but thinking Wade is better than Jordan is just asinine



Agreed. I'm not sure Wade is in the top twenty shooting guards of all-time. .


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cmon dude, he's clearly one of the top FIVE shooting guards in NBA history, probably even comfortably in the top 3-4.

This is as bas as your Dominick Hasek take from a few years ago :D
Author:  JORR [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
shakes wrote:
dude I post on Real GM NBA all the time


Well, that settles it then.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Nardi wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The "GOAT" isn't a really thing. But if it is, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT unless you're a Bulls fan.

Something a godless secularist would say. Jordan was magical. His spirit captured the entire planet.

Anyway, thanks for your opinion, Sam Harris.


different era. there was another guy in the 90s named micheal who captured the worlds spirit while simultaneously sleeping with children.
Author:  JORR [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.



Follow the logic here, Missourah.

Jordan was a SG.
Wade was a SG.
If Wade is the greatest SG of all time, he is greater than Jordan.

Is Wade the GOAT?

That logic is what makes this statement so stupid. There is no universe where Wade is a greater SG than Jordan. I don't even think he would be in the top 5 all time at SG.

If you want to stay in your world of Jordan not being the GOAT that is fine, but thinking Wade is better than Jordan is just asinine



Agreed. I'm not sure Wade is in the top twenty shooting guards of all-time. .


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cmon dude, he's clearly one of the top FIVE shooting guards in NBA history, probably even comfortably in the top 3-4.

This is as bas as your Dominick Hasek take from a few years ago :D



Oscar Robertson
Jerry West
Dave Bing
John Havlicek
Reggie Miller
Pete Maravich
Clyde Drexler

There's 7 that were better than him without even thinking about it and without mentioning Jordan or LeBron. You probably won't call LeBron a "shooting guard" but he plays any position he wants to.

Obviously Steph Curry is better than Wade, but I'm guessing you want to call him a "point guard." Wade is comparable to Klay Thompson and Earl Monroe. So okay, he's probably one of the 20 best, but he's certainly scraping to get into the top ten.
Author:  Ben Simmons [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
shakes wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The "GOAT" isn't a really thing. But if it is, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT unless you're a Bulls fan.


that's categorically false. some people think Lebron is the GOAT, but it's a small number compared to those who think it's MJ even amongst non Bulls fans.


Not true, non-Chicago people are not as narrow-minded about Jordan. Non-Chicago people also understand no one cares about Chicago outside of Chicago.


dude I post on Real GM NBA all the time (except when I'm banned) and you are 100% incorrect. Go over there and look at any number of the many GOAT polls. Every poster there is identified by the team they support. You couldn't be more full of crap with this take.


I agree. I log on to Real GM NBA all the time to give my honest, unbiased, objective opinions on why Ben Simmons deserves All NBA consideration this year. The one thing that lends credibility to Real GM and other sites is no one can ever impersonate other people or create fake accounts to skew opinions.
Author:  The Missing Link [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.



Follow the logic here, Missourah.

Jordan was a SG.
Wade was a SG.
If Wade is the greatest SG of all time, he is greater than Jordan.

Is Wade the GOAT?

That logic is what makes this statement so stupid. There is no universe where Wade is a greater SG than Jordan. I don't even think he would be in the top 5 all time at SG.

If you want to stay in your world of Jordan not being the GOAT that is fine, but thinking Wade is better than Jordan is just asinine



Agreed. I'm not sure Wade is in the top twenty shooting guards of all-time. .


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cmon dude, he's clearly one of the top FIVE shooting guards in NBA history, probably even comfortably in the top 3-4.

This is as bas as your Dominick Hasek take from a few years ago :D



Oscar Robertson
Jerry West
Dave Bing
John Havlicek
Reggie Miller
Pete Maravich
Clyde Drexler

There's 7 that were better than him without even thinking about it and without mentioning Jordan or LeBron. You probably won't call LeBron a "shooting guard" but he plays any position he wants to.

Obviously Steph Curry is better than Wade, but I'm guessing you want to call him a "point guard." Wade is comparable to Klay Thompson and Earl Monroe. So okay, he's probably one of the 20 best, but he's certainly scraping to get into the top ten.


You forgot Kobe. Most would take him over Wade too.
Author:  Nardi [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.



Follow the logic here, Missourah.

Jordan was a SG.
Wade was a SG.
If Wade is the greatest SG of all time, he is greater than Jordan.

Is Wade the GOAT?

That logic is what makes this statement so stupid. There is no universe where Wade is a greater SG than Jordan. I don't even think he would be in the top 5 all time at SG.

If you want to stay in your world of Jordan not being the GOAT that is fine, but thinking Wade is better than Jordan is just asinine



Agreed. I'm not sure Wade is in the top twenty shooting guards of all-time. .


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cmon dude, he's clearly one of the top FIVE shooting guards in NBA history, probably even comfortably in the top 3-4.

This is as bas as your Dominick Hasek take from a few years ago :D

Clearly? There's West, Jordan, Drexler, Kobe, and Miller. Even Harden's numbers are gaudy next to Wade but I wouldn't put him ahead of him.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Definitely recency bias when it comes to Wade. I will never include Harden on any top 5/10 list due to his indifference on defense. I hate how unashamed he is of his laziness and how it never comes up when people talk about this "greatness."
Author:  Nardi [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
You want to put him 5th , I have no problem with it. But no, he's not better than Clyde. That's ridiculous.
Author:  JORR [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Nardi wrote:
You want to put him 5th , I have no problem with it. But no, he's not better than Clyde. That's ridiculous.



Is he really better than Jimmy Butler? I mean, really? I'm not sure. Wade rode the coattails of Shaq and then LeBron to get "rings." But other than that they're pretty similar.
Author:  Alfredrick Hughes [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Ben Simmons wrote:
shakes wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The "GOAT" isn't a really thing. But if it is, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT unless you're a Bulls fan.


that's categorically false. some people think Lebron is the GOAT, but it's a small number compared to those who think it's MJ even amongst non Bulls fans.


Not true, non-Chicago people are not as narrow-minded about Jordan. Non-Chicago people also understand no one cares about Chicago outside of Chicago.


dude I post on Real GM NBA all the time (except when I'm banned) and you are 100% incorrect. Go over there and look at any number of the many GOAT polls. Every poster there is identified by the team they support. You couldn't be more full of crap with this take.


I agree. I log on to Real GM NBA all the time to give my honest, unbiased, objective opinions on why Ben Simmons deserves All NBA consideration this year. The one thing that lends credibility to Real GM and other sites is no one can ever impersonate other people or create fake accounts to skew opinions.


I've never once used a mult at Real GM NBA to point out what an underrated shooter I was. Cotton Fitzsimmons never gave me a chance!
Author:  Nardi [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nardi wrote:
You want to put him 5th , I have no problem with it. But no, he's not better than Clyde. That's ridiculous.



Is he really better than Jimmy Butler? I mean, really? I'm not sure. Wade rode the coattails of Shaq and then LeBron to get "rings." But other than that they're pretty similar.

He can create his own shot better. He had a handful of truly remarkable years. But at age 30 or 31, he kinda fell off the table. The miles beat him up pretty bad.
Author:  shakes [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.



Follow the logic here, Missourah.

Jordan was a SG.
Wade was a SG.
If Wade is the greatest SG of all time, he is greater than Jordan.

Is Wade the GOAT?

That logic is what makes this statement so stupid. There is no universe where Wade is a greater SG than Jordan. I don't even think he would be in the top 5 all time at SG.

If you want to stay in your world of Jordan not being the GOAT that is fine, but thinking Wade is better than Jordan is just asinine



Agreed. I'm not sure Wade is in the top twenty shooting guards of all-time. .


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cmon dude, he's clearly one of the top FIVE shooting guards in NBA history, probably even comfortably in the top 3-4.

This is as bas as your Dominick Hasek take from a few years ago :D



Oscar Robertson
Jerry West
Dave Bing
John Havlicek
Reggie Miller
Pete Maravich
Clyde Drexler

There's 7 that were better than him without even thinking about it and without mentioning Jordan or LeBron. You probably won't call LeBron a "shooting guard" but he plays any position he wants to.

Obviously Steph Curry is better than Wade, but I'm guessing you want to call him a "point guard." Wade is comparable to Klay Thompson and Earl Monroe. So okay, he's probably one of the 20 best, but he's certainly scraping to get into the top ten.


https://hoopshype.com/lists/20-greatest-shooting-guards-ever-the-hoopshype-list/

-DWade #3. Clyde #7, Miller #8, none of those others you listed in top 20 either because they aren't 2Gs or they aren't good enough

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2852997-nba-all-time-player-rankings-top-10-shooting-guards

Once again DWade #3, Clyde #5, Reggie #7

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarankSGs/ranking-top-10-shooting-guards-ever

Big drop for Wade in this one all the way to #4 because they consider West a shooting guard and have him at #3

https://hoop-social.com/top-10-greatest-shooting-guards-in-nba-history/

Same as above with West at #3 and Wade at #4.


Those were the first 4 hits on Google.


Now show me your lists that have Wade barely making the top 10 or barely making the top 20.
Author:  shakes [ Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SI: Wade "Arguably" Greatest of All Time at SG
Nardi wrote:
shakes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
the Jordan and LeBron debate has nothing to do with this stupid statement that Wade is the greatest SG of all time.

He is not.



Follow the logic here, Missourah.

Jordan was a SG.
Wade was a SG.
If Wade is the greatest SG of all time, he is greater than Jordan.

Is Wade the GOAT?

That logic is what makes this statement so stupid. There is no universe where Wade is a greater SG than Jordan. I don't even think he would be in the top 5 all time at SG.

If you want to stay in your world of Jordan not being the GOAT that is fine, but thinking Wade is better than Jordan is just asinine



Agreed. I'm not sure Wade is in the top twenty shooting guards of all-time. .


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cmon dude, he's clearly one of the top FIVE shooting guards in NBA history, probably even comfortably in the top 3-4.

This is as bas as your Dominick Hasek take from a few years ago :D

Clearly? There's West, Jordan, Drexler, Kobe, and Miller. Even Harden's numbers are gaudy next to Wade but I wouldn't put him ahead of him.


please find a single expert that agrees with you. Wade is clearly behind MJ and Kobe, West if he counts as a 2G, but that's it. Everyone else is CLEARLY behind Wade.
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