Why is it good for the Knicks?
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Now this I really don't understand. The Suns allegedly gave up the run & gun by trading for Shaq and bringing in Terry Porter. Now they've gotten rid of some good defensive players for someone who thrives in a run & gun? Huh? Can they make up their mind? Are they panicking? |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
I get the feeling management didn't like Diaw...still is an awful trade for the Suns, good for the Knicks... |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Bell has been pissy with the move to the deliberate style of Porter and Diaw's playing time has been reduced since Amare came back. Phoenix now gets a solid scoring guard to pair up with Nash and Shaq. I like this deal for Phoenix. |
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| Author: | Max Power [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Why is it good for the Knicks?
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| Author: | Max Power [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
The Knicks are not involved in this trade. It was Jason Richardson from Charlotte. |
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| Author: | Max Power [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
wow 2 NBA guys in Nas and Cof do not know the actual teams involved in a trade. Priceless  And to think I almost voted for Nas in poster of the year and cof in rookie of the year. |
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| Author: | Max Power [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Well get to reading then slappy, it has been reported for hours. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Berns wrote: How does this get Phoenix closer to a championship? Simply, it gives you that go to shooting guard that can play the two man game with Shaq. JRich will also do good work on the defensive end. It's not like he's not going to play defense. |
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| Author: | BD [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
How does this deal work out for Charlotte? I think they have more moves to make, but they now have Raja Bell (once a very good defender, but has slipped) at SG, and Raymond Felton at PG (even though he's not a true PG). Their best PG is D.J. Augustin, and, despite having the worst offense in the league, they continue to sit him on the bench. He should be playing 30-35 minutes a night. Boris Diaw is expected to play PF over Sean May, and Gerald Wallace is at SF. What a mess. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
BD wrote: How does this deal work out for Charlotte? I think they have more moves to make, but they now have Raja Bell (once a very good defender, but has slipped) at SG, and Raymond Felton at PG (even though he's not a true PG). Their best PG is D.J. Augustin, and, despite having the worst offense in the league, they continue to sit him on the bench. He should be playing 30-35 minutes a night. Boris Diaw is expected to play PF over Sean May, and Gerald Wallace is at SF. What a mess. Plus they're rumored to be shopping Wallace to the Timberwolves. Yikes |
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| Author: | BD [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Bagels wrote: BD wrote: How does this deal work out for Charlotte? I think they have more moves to make, but they now have Raja Bell (once a very good defender, but has slipped) at SG, and Raymond Felton at PG (even though he's not a true PG). Their best PG is D.J. Augustin, and, despite having the worst offense in the league, they continue to sit him on the bench. He should be playing 30-35 minutes a night. Boris Diaw is expected to play PF over Sean May, and Gerald Wallace is at SF. What a mess. Plus they're rumored to be shopping Wallace to the Timberwolves. Yikes What's the rumor there? Haven't heard that one. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Whats wrong with Jason Richardson? Seems like hes really good but 3 teams in 3 years tells me hes not |
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| Author: | BD [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
rogers park bryan wrote: Whats wrong with Jason Richardson? Seems like hes really good but 3 teams in 3 years tells me hes not He's a good player, and was Charlotte's 1st or 2nd best player (I'd take Wallace over him). |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Max Power wrote: wow 2 NBA guys in Nas and Cof do not know the actual teams involved in a trade. Priceless And to think I almost voted for Nas in poster of the year and cof in rookie of the year. I went by your post, so go |
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| Author: | BD [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Nas wrote: So you believe the Bobcats are trying to trade their 2 best players? They traded Richardson, their 2nd best player, and are rumored to be trying to trade their best player, Wallace. Who do you think is better, right now? I do like Augustin - he's played well, and should be starting at PG. Unfortunately, they have Raymond Felton shooting bricks at PG, and he's undersized for SG. Okafor isn't a bad player, but he's not a difference maker. The team is a mess. |
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| Author: | BD [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
BTW, Gerald Wallace to the Minnesota Timberwolves for two expiring contracts (Jason Collins and Rashad McCants) is totally bogus, according to Bobcats general manager Rod Higgins. |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Hawkeye Vince wrote: Berns wrote: How does this get Phoenix closer to a championship? Simply, it gives you that go to shooting guard that can play the two man game with Shaq. JRich will also do good work on the defensive end. It's not like he's not going to play defense. now that I'm properly informed, yes it's a great trade for PHO and yet another hairbrained trade for the Boobcats. Felton is their best performer right now, not DJ... |
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| Author: | BD [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
City of Fools wrote: Hawkeye Vince wrote: Berns wrote: How does this get Phoenix closer to a championship? Simply, it gives you that go to shooting guard that can play the two man game with Shaq. JRich will also do good work on the defensive end. It's not like he's not going to play defense. now that I'm properly informed, yes it's a great trade for PHO and yet another hairbrained trade for the Boobcats. Felton is their best performer right now, not DJ... Felton is a below 40% shooter in his career (39% this season). He's not a true point guard, and is too small to play SG. Augustin is their PG of the future, and he's played good as a rookie. Give him that job, and make Felton a 6th man. As for Phoenix, are they changing their style of play? They trade for Shaq, and become more of a half court team. Now, they trade their best perimeter defender for Richardson, who's not known for his defense at all. |
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| Author: | BD [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Nas wrote: BD wrote: Nas wrote: So you believe the Bobcats are trying to trade their 2 best players? They traded Richardson, their 2nd best player, and are rumored to be trying to trade their best player, Wallace. Who do you think is better, right now? I agree with you. I was hoping you could offer something different than what I was thinking. That means MJ and the gang are out of their fucking minds. Gotcha. I believe they also took on a lot of salary in that deal as well with Diaw and Bell's contract's. They have a collection of parts that don't fit together. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
Contract data: Raja Bell is making 4.8 Million/year and will be a free agent in 2010 Boris Diaw is making 9 Million/year and will be a free agent in 2012 Sean Singletary is making the minimum and has a team option in 2010. Jason Richardson was making 11 Million a year and is signed through 2011 Jared Dudley is on his rookie deal making 1.4 Million a year and will be a free agent in 2011 after a team option for year 4. Looking after 2010, Charlotte will now have something like 14 Million off the books (assuming they don't resign Felton and May after this year) |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
I'm guessing they won't resign May
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Richardson to Suns for Bell & Diaw |
no way.... 
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