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OK, I'll break the ice here. The NBA All-star game, like baseball IS sappy & thanks to fan voting, ripe for the career cherry on top prize start. The thing of it is is that many times, the "undeserving" guy (like AI) usually shows his ass in these games and helps make these games watchable.

AI is one of the few NBA players I have ever paid to watch play w/o question. I'd like to see him get honored/play....but maybe that's just me.

I've been saying for decades that we should never have given them* the right to vote.

*-THUGS

My only contention is the fans having the say in who actually starts the game. I think there is a certain distinction and honor that goes with being named a starter that should be awarded by play during the current season, not a lifetime achievement award.

josh smith better make it, that's all i have to say

Bagels wrote:

josh smith better make it, that's all i have to say

61% Free Throws. Sorry but No all star ever has been that bad of a free throw shooter. And they certainly never appeared on an ESPN NBA Video game cover

Northside_Dan wrote:

If the NBA MVP didn't also have such a history of being a lifetime achievement award, I'd tend to agree with you.

rogers park bryan wrote:

Bagels wrote:

josh smith better make it, that's all i have to say

61% Free Throws. Sorry but No all star ever has been that bad of a free throw shooter. And they certainly never appeared on an ESPN NBA Video game cover

yeah shaq is a regular mark price at the stripe

rogers park bryan wrote:

Bagels wrote:

josh smith better make it, that's all i have to say

61% Free Throws. Sorry but No all star ever has been that bad of a free throw shooter. And they certainly never appeared on an ESPN NBA Video game cover

yeah shaq is a regular mark price at the stripe

Now maybe I'm alone on this, but I can't stand AI and always thought his game and persona killed numerous teams. I don't understand why anyone outside Philadelphia would vote for him.

Farvio is gonna roast me on this, but I think he is garbage and belongs nowhere near the "great" that he is portrayed as being.

Iverson is one of the toughest little bastards to ever play any sport.

Never mind the undermining of any sort of team discipline cowtowing to the whims of a superstar who won't even regularly practice.

If the Hawks beat Orlando tonight, Woody will coach the all-star game

Author:	Northside_Dan [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:01 am ]
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Fan voting, please go away.. Iverson? Really? And Nash I guess barely passed up McGrady. Rondo, Bosh, Dirk, Joe Johnson all deserve starting spots. I wonder if any league will finally take away fan voting for starters at least. East Guard Allen Iverson 11th Guard Dwyane Wade 6th Forward LeBron James 6th Forward Kevin Garnett 13th Center Dwight Howard 4th West Guard Steve Nash 7th Guard Kobe Bryant 12th Forward Carmelo Anthony 3rd Forward Tim Duncan 12th Center Amar'e Stoudemire 5th http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/allstar20 ... id=4846991

Author:	Free Ajent [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:03 am ]
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Ya heard about Iverson starting on my way into work today, was actually thinking about DB'ing the league for letting this shit happen. This is riDICKulous.

Author:	Douchebag [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:04 am ]
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The same thing happens every year in baseball too. What do you expect? People are fuckin stupid.

Author:	Northside_Dan [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:06 am ]
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I guess it's not as bad with the NBA since it truly is an exhibition game compared to baseball where it actually affects the outcome of the championship. Still though, I have no tolerance for stupid people and I let myself be surprised with it every time

Author:	Douchebag [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:09 am ]
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I will not rest until my guy Jonas Jerebko is named to the Eastern squad.

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Author:	Regular Reader [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:10 am ]
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OK, I'll break the ice here. The NBA All-star game, like baseball IS sappy & thanks to fan voting, ripe for the career cherry on top prize start. The thing of it is is that many times, the "undeserving" guy (like AI) usually shows his ass in these games and helps make these games watchable. AI is one of the few NBA players I have ever paid to watch play w/o question. I'd like to see him get honored/play....but maybe that's just me.

Author:	Brick [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:15 am ]
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I've been saying for decades that we should never have given them* the right to vote. *-fans of the NBA

Author:	Free Ajent [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:16 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: I've been saying for decades that we should never have given them* the right to vote. *-THUGS fixed

Author:	Bagels [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:27 am ]
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josh smith better make it, that's all i have to say

Author:	Brick [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:30 am ]
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How can David Stern fix the draft lottery but he can't fix the All Star voting?

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:40 pm ]
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Bagels wrote: josh smith better make it, that's all i have to say 61% Free Throws. Sorry but No all star ever has been that bad of a free throw shooter. And they certainly never appeared on an ESPN NBA Video game cover

Author:	Bagels [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:56 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote: Bagels wrote: josh smith better make it, that's all i have to say 61% Free Throws. Sorry but No all star ever has been that bad of a free throw shooter. And they certainly never appeared on an ESPN NBA Video game cover yeah shaq is a regular mark price at the stripe

Author:	SHARK [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:33 pm ]
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Allen Iverson was thisclose to retirement before signing on with the 76ers for a second tour of duty. Many thought A.I. was washed up even when he signed with Philadelphia, and on the whole, the Sixers are worse than the Bulls in the standings. The fact that he got voted in despite only 19 games is a joke. One of the guys who probably could've been selected as a reserve, the Cavaliers' Mo Williams, has a separated left shoulder and will be sidelined for quite sometime. It could pave the way for the Bulls' own Derrick Rose to be selected, but truth be told, Joakim Noah and his double-doubles in points & rebounds, is more deserving of his first All-Star appearance when TNT announces the rest of the NBA All-Stars next Thursday.

Author:	FavreFan [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:11 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote: Northside_Dan wrote: My only contention is the fans having the say in who actually starts the game. I think there is a certain distinction and honor that goes with being named a starter that should be awarded by play during the current season, not a lifetime achievement award. If the NBA MVP didn't also have such a history of being a lifetime achievement award, I'd tend to agree with you. This seems illogical. Because the MVP voting is flawed, it's ok to have the ASG voting flawed? Two wrongs making a right? I've defended Iverson on here numerous times. Him, Kidd, and Duncan are my three favorite players this past decade. But I dont see this as an honor. More like him becoming the butt of many jokes. He simply isn't anywhere near an all star caliber guard anymore, and therefore shouldnt get to play in it. If T-Mac had made it, it would have been even more absurd.

Author:	HOVA [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:09 pm ]
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Chip off the old block resemble my old pops...

Author:	Bagels [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:13 am ]
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well, so much for that not really sure what this means, but the Hawks have clearly passed the Celtics into the 3rd team in the East. They still can't beat Orlando or Cleveland though but going off on another tangent, I'm not sure it's time to break them up yet as ESPN was suggesting today. it's clearly panic time as far as they're concerned. thing is yes, ray allen is playing pretty bad and garnett's health is still a major question. but they lost to Orlando the other night (at orlando) in the closing minute. they lost to the lakers yesterday on a kobe buzzer beater (again yeah allen w/ the chance to win but FAIL)...point is they are in the games, it's not like they're getting blown out. they did lose pretty bad to the Hawks but I think they just match up REALLY bad with the Hawks. they can't handle the Hawks athleticism, whereas the Hawks can't handle Orlando and Cleveland's front line, they lack the size. it will be interesting to see what the matchups and home courts come down to

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Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:21 pm ]
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Bagels wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Bagels wrote: josh smith better make it, that's all i have to say 61% Free Throws. Sorry but No all star ever has been that bad of a free throw shooter. And they certainly never appeared on an ESPN NBA Video game cover yeah shaq is a regular mark price at the stripe I was thinking this very thing and Dwight Howard will be an All Star for the next 10-12 years.

Author:	Apologist [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:11 pm ]
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Now maybe I'm alone on this, but I can't stand AI and always thought his game and persona killed numerous teams. I don't understand why anyone outside Philadelphia would vote for him. Farvio is gonna roast me on this, but I think he is garbage and belongs nowhere near the "great" that he is portrayed as being.

Author:	FavreFan [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:59 am ]
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Apologist wrote: Now maybe I'm alone on this, but I can't stand AI and always thought his game and persona killed numerous teams. I don't understand why anyone outside Philadelphia would vote for him. Farvio is gonna roast me on this, but I think he is garbage and belongs nowhere near the "great" that he is portrayed as being. Who's the best player he ever played with? A past his prime Mutumbo. He never killed any teams. He made them. At least in Philly. Chauncey was clearly a better fit for Denver, and he has diminished skills now. Still, for in the early part of last decade he was as good or better than his reputation.

Author:	Mr. Reason [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:15 pm ]
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Iverson is one of the toughest little bastards to ever play any sport.

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:54 pm ]
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Mr. Reason wrote: Iverson is one of the toughest little bastards to ever play any sport. +1 He's got a chip on his shoulder but at his size, he probably needed it to make it as long as he did.

Author:	Apologist [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:24 am ]
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I don't care how "tough" he was, he embodied all that was wrong with NBA's star-making machine in the post Bird/Johnson Jordan era. One of the reasons he never played with any good players, no way you could develop anyone else in a system designed to funnel shots and possesions to a so-called "shooting" guard who hoisted up plenty at a career 42% clip. Never mind the undermining of any sort of team discipline cowtowing to the whims of a superstar who won't even regularly practice. Like I said, it's obviously only my opinion but this is the kind of player who will kill a franchise. I'm pretty sure that all his teams were happier after he left. I'm not that hung up on image, but his whole "me against the world" thing doesn't really help either in a team sport. He'll be likely in the HOF but in my mind he's garbage. Keep it

Author:	Mr. Hernandez [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:50 am ]
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I was a huge Iverson fan when he was with Georgetown. He was a good team player. He could score, pass and was one of the best defensive players in the nation. I think Coach Thompson knew how to handle him but once he came into the NBA he just became mostly a scorer and never made anyone around him better or ever looked interested in doing so. Certainly one of the toughest players to ever lace em up though.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:55 am ]
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The game is purely for fun, let the fans see who they want. At least the players actually show up for this one unlike the NFL where I believe 1 of the six qbs voted in is actually showing.

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:17 pm ]
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Apologist wrote: Never mind the undermining of any sort of team discipline cowtowing to the whims of a superstar who won't even regularly practice. That describes Bill Russell too. Just sayin'

Author:	Bagels [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:03 pm ]
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If the Hawks beat Orlando tonight, Woody will coach the all-star game

Author:	FavreFan [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:50 pm ]
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Bagels wrote: If the Hawks beat Orlando tonight, Woody will coach the all-star game How do you feel about him? I think he has to be one of the most improved coaches in the NBA. Unfortunately, I dont get to see enough of the Hawks to know. I remember a few years ago thinking he was worse than Mike Brown.