Yeah I agree Bagels, I think this would be a real solid team after the trade. I dont think it puts them in the same class as the Lakers, but possibly the second best team in the West. We already know they can matchup and beat the Spurs.
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| Author: | Bagels [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:20 am ] |
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OKC, I like this deal that your Mavs are rumored to be making- Howard, Quinton Ross and Gooden for Caron Butler, Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson i mean i like it as far as Dallas goes, haywood would give them someone to theoretically matchup with Bynum or Duncan or other bigs. I think Butler would be really good on that team- Kidd, Butler, Marion, Nowitzki and Haywood? That's a nice starting lineup so there...i'm taking a break from my Mavs bashing- i like this trade for them and think that would be a formidable starting lineup. plus still have terry and dampier off the bench...deep. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trade deadline / trade thread |
The sad fact is for the Wiz who need more than help cap wise, this only frees them up about 3M if they keep Howard around past this year. They do have an option on him for next season so in theory it could free up 14M. The Wiz must be hoping they can cancel the contract of Arenas to have some real dough to chase FAs |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:45 am ] |
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Yeah I agree Bagels, I think this would be a real solid team after the trade. I dont think it puts them in the same class as the Lakers, but possibly the second best team in the West. We already know they can matchup and beat the Spurs.
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| Author: | BD [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trade deadline / trade thread |
From the Washington Post: The Washington Wizards and Dallas Mavericks have now completed a swap of Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson for Josh Howard, Drew Gooden and two other players on Saturday. They surrendered Butler, Haywood and Stevenson in what essentially is a salary dump that provides almost $15 million in cap relief for the 2010-11 season. Ross is the only player the Wizards receive who is signed through next season. The deal would also provide nearly $2.6 million in luxury tax relief this season for the Wizards, who will ship out $19.7 million in salaries while getting back $17.3 million. Coupled with the savings that the Wizards will already receive for suspensions to Arenas and Crittenton, the luxury tax penalty could be reduced by nearly $7 million. |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:03 pm ] |
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Good move but I still believe the Spurs and Nuggets will be better when the playoffs start. |
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| Author: | BD [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:17 pm ] |
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HOVA wrote: Good move but I still believe the Spurs and Nuggets will be better when the playoffs start. I'm on the fence regarding the Spurs, they look very old some nights, and their defense has been poor at times this season. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:25 pm ] |
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Clips deal Camby for Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake. Blazers needed front court help with Oden and Pryzbila out for the year. Not sure what else this does for them other than keeps them in the playoffs, only to be bounced in round 1. As for the Clips, who knows what they are doing? Perhaps Outlaw is a long term piece. Blake is a journeyman. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:48 pm ] |
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Hawkeye Vince wrote: Clips deal Camby for Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake. Blazers needed front court help with Oden and Pryzbila out for the year. Not sure what else this does for them other than keeps them in the playoffs, only to be bounced in round 1. As for the Clips, who knows what they are doing? Perhaps Outlaw is a long term piece. Blake is a journeyman. yeah, not really sure about this one. from what i read all contracts are expiring, so it's not really a money issue for either team. you're right, i suppose this keeps the Blazers afloat but they're still going to have issues if Roy is not healthy for the 2nd half. and the clippers....total puzzle there, I don't get it at all. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:12 pm ] |
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The Blazers' acquisition of Marcus Camby this afternoon from the Clippers likely crosses the Bulls and Tyrus Thomas off the list. Thomas might end up staying here, whether he likes it or not, the rest of the season if he's not dealt by Thursday's 2p deadline. |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:22 pm ] |
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Grab a lost rebound like Bo Outlaw, I'm so outlaw... |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:49 pm ] |
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Drew Gooden is working on a buyout with the Wizards and would like to take the 30 days off and come back to the Mavs. Sixers are likely standing pat. |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:05 pm ] |
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The Knicks have made a move. Nate Robinson has reportedly been dealt to the Celtics, according to Newsday. NBCSports.com adds that Eddie House and a draft pick have been sent to New York. It may only be the beginning... |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:35 pm ] |
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Looks the Knicks are balking at the TMac deal. They don't want to give up the picks and rookie Jordan Hill. |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:13 pm ] |
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I can't understand why the Celtics would trade House for Nate. I believe that makes their team worse. Eddie was good at knocking down the outside shot. What will Nate provide that they don't have? Bad move. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:34 pm ] |
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I'm not seeing this trade other than Nate might be a bit better on the defensive end than House and he's fresh going into the final stretch of the year. He also would give a touch more salary relief next year. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trade deadline / trade thread |
As reported at the end of B&B, Cavs pursuit of Amare appears to be over for now...3 way deal Cavs get Antwan Jamison Wiz get Al Thornton, Brian Skinner, Cavs 1 and Z Ilgauskas. Clips get Drew Gooden |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:20 pm ] |
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Great move for the Cavs. Jamison is a better fit and Big Z will be back in a month. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:23 pm ] |
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I still wonder if they would have preferred waiting for Amare, but Twan will get them good production from the 4 spot. |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:34 pm ] |
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I don't think Amare and Shaq would work. At the very least Jamison is an excellent outside option for LeBron. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:36 pm ] |
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And they didn't have to give up Hickson. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:38 pm ] |
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HOVA wrote: I don't think Amare and Shaq would work. At the very least Jamison is an excellent outside option for LeBron. Agreed on Jamison, but I think Amare and Shaq could have worked. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:44 pm ] |
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Shaq and Amare didn't work in PHX because Shaq just didn't fit in that system. I think they would have been ok on the Cavs. |
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| Author: | Bulldog Scott [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:07 pm ] |
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If you're Lebron, do you want to be playing along side a 35 year old Jamison in 3 years, who will be making something like $14M? |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:19 pm ] |
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He can still shoot. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:20 pm ] |
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in any case, I'm happy for Jamison...not that I'd ever root for the Cavs but I'm still happy he's playing for a contender and has a chance to win a title. as an ongoing Warriors fan, I saw him play for a long time and he had to play on a lot of shitty GS teams. good for him. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:13 pm ] |
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Jared Jeffries is no longer on the bench for the Knicks after playing 6 minutes in the first half....he was probably told that he was going to be traded. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trade deadline / trade thread |
So if Amare isn't going to the Cavs or Heat, will he just end up staying with the Suns for the rest of the year or is there another team in the picture? |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trade deadline / trade thread |
spmack wrote: Jared Jeffries is no longer on the bench for the Knicks after playing 6 minutes in the first half....he was probably told that he was going to be traded. He's probably got the flu like Nate Robinson, right? |
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| Author: | Baby McNown [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trade deadline / trade thread |
spmack wrote: Jared Jeffries is no longer on the bench for the Knicks after playing 6 minutes in the first half....he was probably told that he was going to be traded. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cyO271GChk |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trade deadline / trade thread |
Just read on CBSsports that the Grizzlies tried to get Monta Ellis from Golden State and offered up OJ Mayo. |
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