Douchebag wrote:
Luol Deng is still better than all of these guys.
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| Author: | mel junior [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:04 am ] |
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Per Adrian Woj @ Yahoo: To Nets: Deron Williams, Dan Gadzuric To Utah: Derrick Favors, Devin Harris, 2 1st Round Picks To Golden State: Troy Murphy Wow! |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:05 am ] |
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does this mean Sloan is coming back to Utah now? |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:06 am ] |
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has the stock of Williams fallen that much? 2 first rounders, Favors and Harris does sound like a lot...but for a (supposed) top 3/4 PG? |
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| Author: | Mr. Hernandez [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:08 am ] |
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Just heard it on W&S. This one caught me by surprise. I didn't even know Williams was on the trade block. So does this mean CP will sign with the hated Knicks when his contract is up? Its been floated around before already |
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| Author: | mel junior [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:10 am ] |
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I think Devin Harris is under-rated as a player, but from what I've seen of Favors, he's over-rated. I don't think CP3 is going to take the paycut to go to NY - between Amare and Melo, that's well over $42MM on a $57MM cap. And with the new CBA, there is no way the owners will bend on a soft cap vs having a hard cap. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:10 am ] |
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there's going to be no good players left in the West |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:11 am ] |
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Mr. Hernandez wrote: Just heard it on W&S. This one caught me by surprise. I didn't even know Williams was on the trade block. So does this mean CP will sign with the hated Knicks when his contract is up? Its been floated around before already The knicks do not have the cap room to sign a third guy. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:11 am ] |
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So the East is the new West. |
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| Author: | mel junior [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:11 am ] |
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The West is the new East. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:12 am ] |
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Bagels wrote: there's going to be no good players left in the West Remember when it was the reverse in the early 00's? |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:16 am ] |
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spmack wrote: Bagels wrote: there's going to be no good players left in the West Remember when it was the reverse in the early 00's? I do. Wow, the league just kinda feels weird now. Like Bagels pointed out, there are only a few power teams left in the West, and the Lakers and Spurs are both gonna be done after this year. Dallas is good, but I don't consider them a powerhouse. Next year, OKC will easily be the team to beat in the West. |
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| Author: | mel junior [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:18 am ] |
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Woj adds that the Nets are also getting Brandan Wright from Golden State and the Nets are sending the Jazz $3MM. Great, great trade for the Brooklyn Nets. |
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| Author: | mel junior [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:34 am ] |
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BohemianGrove wrote: Unbelievable trade for the Nets. This definitel caught many people by surprise, I assume. Especially the Knicks .... For what the NYKs paid for Melo and the Nets turnaround and give up Favors/DHarris/Cash/T Murphy (who was sitting at home) for Brandon Wright, Dan Gadzuric and Deron Freaking Williams - unbelievable. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:36 am ] |
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The Knicks-Nets rivalry is going to really heat up. In my opinion, the Nets are setting themselves up much better for long term success and they have made it clear that they are going to try and take as much market share from the Knicks as they can. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:37 am ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: The Knicks-Nets rivalry is going to really heat up. In my opinion, the Nets are setting themselves up much better for long term success and they have made it clear that they are going to try and take as much market share from the Knicks as they can. What's the reaction in NY Rick? |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:39 am ] |
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mel junior wrote: BohemianGrove wrote: Unbelievable trade for the Nets. This definitel caught many people by surprise, I assume. Especially the Knicks .... For what the NYKs paid for Melo and the Nets turnaround and give up Favors/DHarris/Cash/T Murphy (who was sitting at home) for Brandon Wright, Dan Gadzuric and Deron Freaking Williams - unbelievable. I wouldn't exactly be lauding the acquisition of Gadzuric and Wright...... it's definitely a good trade for them seeing as Harris has fallen a bit, but they're also giving up on Favors pretty early and giving up 2 first rounders, which will be at least middle of the 1st round. its not like they stole him for nothing |
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| Author: | Brick [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:44 am ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: The Knicks-Nets rivalry is going to really heat up. In my opinion, the Nets are setting themselves up much better for long term success and they have made it clear that they are going to try and take as much market share from the Knicks as they can. What's the reaction in NY Rick? Basically though, the Knicks getting Melo makes them elite. The Nets aren't a story yet because they are still in New Jersey. |
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| Author: | mel junior [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:50 am ] |
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Bagels wrote: I wouldn't exactly be lauding the acquisition of Gadzuric and Wright...... it's definitely a good trade for them seeing as Harris has fallen a bit, but they're also giving up on Favors pretty early and giving up 2 first rounders, which will be at least middle of the 1st round. its not like they stole him for nothing Agree - was just laying out what the package is. Gadzuric is hot garbage and Wright has never really gotten serious run in Golden State. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:02 pm ] |
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Luol Deng is still better than all of these guys. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:05 pm ] |
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Douchebag wrote: Luol Deng is still better than all of these guys.
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:12 pm ] |
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immessedup17 wrote: Douchebag wrote: Luol Deng is still better than all of these guys. I would say Deron Williams is a better piece to build around, over Carmelo Anthony. I like Williams, but there are a glut of great PG's in the league right now. There aren't ever really a glut of 20+ PPG scorers who can get to the line consistently and create their own shot |
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| Author: | mel junior [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:17 pm ] |
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Bagels wrote: immessedup17 wrote: Douchebag wrote: Luol Deng is still better than all of these guys. I would say Deron Williams is a better piece to build around, over Carmelo Anthony. I like Williams, but there are a glut of great PG's in the league right now. There aren't ever really a glut of 20+ PPG scorers who can get to the line consistently and create their own shot Don't disagree, but is the ability to create your own shot that important of a trait in the D'Antoni offense? Isn't that offense all about ball movement? |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:30 pm ] |
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mel junior wrote: Don't disagree, but is the ability to create your own shot that important of a trait in the D'Antoni offense? Isn't that offense all about ball movement? Between Amare, Melo and Billups there isn't going to be a whole lot of ball movement
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:33 pm ] |
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immessedup17 wrote: I'm a fan of starting with a great point guard, and going from there. care to give me some examples of any recent NBA champions whose team was built around a great PG? |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:44 pm ] |
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Bagels wrote: immessedup17 wrote: I'm a fan of starting with a great point guard, and going from there. care to give me some examples of any recent NBA champions whose team was built around a great PG? 2004 Pistons. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:53 pm ] |
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Bagels wrote: immessedup17 wrote: I'm a fan of starting with a great point guard, and going from there. care to give me some examples of any recent NBA champions whose team was built around a great PG? 2004 Pistons. I disagree. he was probably the best player on the team, it might also have been Wallace, but the point being that they didn't have a true superstar and it was a more "team" approach. he definitely was not far and away the best player on the team or who the team was constructed around |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:10 pm ] |
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immessedup17 wrote: I was like three in 2004.
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| Author: | A7X [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:32 pm ] |
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: immessedup17 wrote: I was like three in 2004. Love the new avatar Kid! |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:52 pm ] |
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I guess this is what you call saving face. It's really awful trade for New Jersey. They gave up too much to get what won't likely be a huge upgrade. I'm guess Utah has to make a deal too. You can't play 3 PF at the same time. I guess that's a probably they're willing to deal with later while they count their loot. |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:56 pm ] |
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immessedup17 wrote: Deron Williams scores 20+ ppg himself, and still gets 10 dimes. I'm a fan of starting with a great point guard, and going from there. So you would take Allen Iverson instead of Jordan too? |
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