If Tyson Chandler and DeShawn Stevenson out-clutch LeBron and win the championship, does that disprove the theory?
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | The effect on players not going to college |
I heard an interesting thing on my morning radio, which means I don't listen to Chicago sports radio. Someone sent in an email stating that Lebron's lack of "clutch" is because his high school team blew everyone out and he never played in college and he doesn't have the experience. I'd like to expand on that further. Let's take the top 5 "high school to NBA" players. Garnett Kobe Lebron McGrady Howard Some may argue to replace McGrady with Stoudemire but that won't really change the point. Garnett's troubles in Minnesota are well known, and it took him a long time to win a title, and that was on a pretty stacked team with others who could come through in the clutch. Kobe is probably the biggest exception on the list, but one could argue that for his first title that he relied on Shaq to get him to the title. Also, Kobe did not win a finals MVP in any of those series. Lebron quit in Cleveland and has disappeared whereas Wade has been the best player on the team in this series. McGrady did nothing in the playoffs, though I do remember him once being grateful to finally have made the second round. Howard probably has completely different reasons why he's not able to lead a team in the playoffs but he also fits in this category. Don't take this as me saying that going to college is something all players should do but I think you get an interesting profile when you look at the high school to NBA players. The talent of that group is undeniable but all of them, outside of Kobe, have been labeled as not being able to perform when it matters the most and unable to lead a team to a title. Lebron may change that with two monster games though. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The effect on players not going to college |
For some reason, I feel like they were talking about this on B&B yesterday, too. I concur with the theory...Kobe didn't really become a clutch player until later in his career. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The effect on players not going to college |
Moses Malone |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:46 am ] |
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Elton Brand #42 NBA |
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| Author: | trickybeck [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The effect on players not going to college |
If Tyson Chandler and DeShawn Stevenson out-clutch LeBron and win the championship, does that disprove the theory?
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The effect on players not going to college |
This is probably why it was four, five, four instead of fo, fo, fo in '83 |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The effect on players not going to college |
All I have is it makes for a less intelligent, less mature adult. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The effect on players not going to college |
badrogue17 wrote: All I have is it makes for a less intelligent, less mature adult. I know plenty of college grads who haven't helped your theory. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:03 pm ] |
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: badrogue17 wrote: All I have is it makes for a less intelligent, less mature adult. I know plenty of college grads who haven't helped your theory. Ivan doesnt count |
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| Author: | beni hanna [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The effect on players not going to college |
Interesting analysis on a subject BoilerRick well. To that end, name the five college graduates that have similar skills to the players noted above. Did they come into the league with an innate ability to always play well when it matters most? Did they ever not play as well as the viewing public thought they should play on the biggest stages? How about those on the Bob Huggins college experience...4-5 years and no degree. How should they be categorized? How do we categorize success for the players that only played 1, 2, or 3 years of college ball? The emailer should want a breakout for number of years played in college. For simplicity, should we remove players either injured in college or with redshirt years yet still in college? Should Alcindor (his name at the time) be treated differently because he only was allowed to play Soph through Senior years with the varsity? today's beni pondering points. hmmmm |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The effect on players not going to college |
badrogue17 wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: badrogue17 wrote: All I have is it makes for a less intelligent, less mature adult. I know plenty of college grads who haven't helped your theory. Ivan doesnt count  Sideswipe out of nowhere!
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| Author: | Chris_in_joliet [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The effect on players not going to college |
Your mom went to college. |
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