Chicago Fanatics Message Board :: View topic - Kyrie Irving vs Ricky Rubio

I have not watched a single Cavs game this season but when has that ever stopped anyone from having an opinion here before. Rubio will have the better career.

Based on the little I've seen, the Timberwolves' Ricky Rubio is as good as advertised. I think he has more to work with than the Cavs' Kyrie Irving has. The one problem? I don't think Rubio's T-Wolves or Irving's Cavs are going to be significantly better anytime soon, as long as the Thunder & Nuggets are the top 2 in the Northwest Division & the Bulls are the cream of a bad Central Division crop.

In plain English, Rubio's the better NBA player long term.

SHARK wrote:

The Central division isn't bad. The Cavs are a long shot but they have a chance to have four playoff teams, including 2 of the top 4 seeds.

FavreFan wrote:

SHARK wrote:

The Central division isn't bad. The Cavs are a long shot but they have a chance to have four playoff teams, including 2 of the top 4 seeds.

Well, the Bulls have a 3 game lead on the Pacers and the Bucks, I think, have the last playoff spot in the East over the Knicks right now. The Central is still the Bulls' division to beat for the forseeable future.

Sauron is Shaq with 19 rings

The one problem? I don't think Rubio's T-Wolves or Irving's Cavs are going to be significantly better anytime soon, as long as the Thunder & Nuggets are the top 2 in the Northwest Division & the Bulls are the cream of a bad Central Division crop.

He'll get it in the next game against the Kings.

conns7901 wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

He'll get it in the next game against the Kings.

If you say it everyday eventually you will be correct.

I have a feeling he'll get it on one of these games Love is out. There are only 2. I have one more. I mean, last night he shot poorly which is unusual for him...he should shoot better, that'll give him double digit points. The assist numbers are low, and it doesn't help with Love being out, but I'm sure he'll find some more teammates against the worst D in the NBA. And finally, he had 7 rebounds last night. That isn't far off.

Lebron will be a good running mate for Kyrie when he returns there in two years.

Kyrie will be a good running mate for when Lebron returns there in two years.

Rubio has a brutal FG% lately. Killing my fantasy team.

Big Chicagoan wrote:

Rubio has a brutal FG% lately. Killing my fantasy team.

Did you read the scouting report? The knock on Rubio is that he's a terrible shooter.

Wow... That's a pretty bad typo. That's the first time I've ever seen "fear" and "hope for" interchanged like that.

Nah, but seriously... Nobody still thinks Rubio is better than Irving, right? Maybe imu...

FavreFan wrote:

huh?

Author:	FavreFan [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:41 pm ]
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Rubio is 21, Irving turns 20 soon. Who's gonna be the better pro? Obviously they are completely different players, and Rubio has a rarer skill set, but I'm leaning towards Irving right now. The only problem with Irving from Cleveland's perspective is he's almost too good too soon, single handedly keeping the Cave out of a top 7 pick next season. A rookie with those shooting percentages and 19 ppg should be getting a lot more attention, especially since he was the number one overall pick.

Author:	Phil McCracken [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:42 pm ]
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I have not watched a single Cavs game this season but when has that ever stopped anyone from having an opinion here before. Rubio will have the better career.

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:47 pm ]
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Phil McCracken wrote: I have not watched a single Cavs game this season but when has that ever stopped anyone from having an opinion here before. Rubio will have the better career. Boers makes his living that way, you are fine McCracken.

Author:	SHARK [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:47 pm ]
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Based on the little I've seen, the Timberwolves' Ricky Rubio is as good as advertised. I think he has more to work with than the Cavs' Kyrie Irving has. The one problem? I don't think Rubio's T-Wolves or Irving's Cavs are going to be significantly better anytime soon, as long as the Thunder & Nuggets are the top 2 in the Northwest Division & the Bulls are the cream of a bad Central Division crop. In plain English, Rubio's the better NBA player long term.

Author:	Brick [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:49 pm ]
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Author:	FavreFan [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:50 pm ]
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SHARK wrote: Based on the little I've seen, the Timberwolves' Ricky Rubio is as good as advertised. I think he has more to work with than the Cavs' Kyrie Irving has. The one problem? I don't think Rubio's T-Wolves or Irving's Cavs are going to be significantly better anytime soon, as long as the Thunder & Nuggets are the top 2 in the Northwest Division & the Bulls are the cream of a bad Central Division crop. In plain English, Rubio's the better NBA player long term. The Central division isn't bad. The Cavs are a long shot but they have a chance to have four playoff teams, including 2 of the top 4 seeds. Considering Rubio is 20 games into his career and Love is a top 10-15 player in the league and getting better, and Minnesota already looks way better than last season, what makes you think Minnesota won't continue to get better SHARK?

Author:	SHARK [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:54 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: SHARK wrote: Based on the little I've seen, the Timberwolves' Ricky Rubio is as good as advertised. I think he has more to work with than the Cavs' Kyrie Irving has. The one problem? I don't think Rubio's T-Wolves or Irving's Cavs are going to be significantly better anytime soon, as long as the Thunder & Nuggets are the top 2 in the Northwest Division & the Bulls are the cream of a bad Central Division crop. In plain English, Rubio's the better NBA player long term. The Central division isn't bad. The Cavs are a long shot but they have a chance to have four playoff teams, including 2 of the top 4 seeds. Well, the Bulls have a 3 game lead on the Pacers and the Bucks, I think, have the last playoff spot in the East over the Knicks right now. The Central is still the Bulls' division to beat for the forseeable future.

Author:	FavreFan [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:57 pm ]
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SHARK wrote: FavreFan wrote: SHARK wrote: Based on the little I've seen, the Timberwolves' Ricky Rubio is as good as advertised. I think he has more to work with than the Cavs' Kyrie Irving has. The one problem? I don't think Rubio's T-Wolves or Irving's Cavs are going to be significantly better anytime soon, as long as the Thunder & Nuggets are the top 2 in the Northwest Division & the Bulls are the cream of a bad Central Division crop. In plain English, Rubio's the better NBA player long term. The Central division isn't bad. The Cavs are a long shot but they have a chance to have four playoff teams, including 2 of the top 4 seeds. Well, the Bulls have a 3 game lead on the Pacers and the Bucks, I think, have the last playoff spot in the East over the Knicks right now. The Central is still the Bulls' division to beat for the forseeable future. Of course it is, but the Bulls are one of the top 3 teams in the league. If the Pacers go 44-22 but finish three games out, it doesn't make them bad. Compared to the other divisions in the East(especially when Orlando loses Dwight), the Central is the best.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:57 pm ]
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Jason Terry is Ricky Rubio with a ring

Author:	FavreFan [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:01 pm ]
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Robert Horry is Raef Lafrentz with 7 rings.

Author:	Phil McCracken [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:01 pm ]
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Stacey King is Charles Barkley with 3 rings

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:49 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote: Sauron is Shaq with 19 rings

Author:	NSJ [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:07 pm ]
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SHARK wrote: The one problem? I don't think Rubio's T-Wolves or Irving's Cavs are going to be significantly better anytime soon, as long as the Thunder & Nuggets are the top 2 in the Northwest Division & the Bulls are the cream of a bad Central Division crop. I'm not following. What do the Thunder, Nuggets and Bulls have to do with Cavs and T-Wolves getting significantly better (or even just better)? Are you saying that weaker teams can't improve if there's a dominant team(s) in the same division?

Author:	FavreFan [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:26 pm ]
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Rubio with 4 points, 1 assist tonight. Looks like IMU's "pick your stat" blastoff theory didn't work out.

Author:	Bagels [ Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:56 am ]
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ok....i guess i didn't really get the joke part of it, sorry i agree irving is a better overall PG at this point. i think rubio is a better passer and plays the passing lanes well, gets a lot of steals..but irving is far and away the better scorer. depends on what you need

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Author:	conns7901 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:51 am ]
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immessedup17 wrote: He'll get it in the next game against the Kings. If you say it everyday eventually you will be correct.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:40 am ]
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immessedup17 wrote: conns7901 wrote: immessedup17 wrote: He'll get it in the next game against the Kings. If you say it everyday eventually you will be correct. I have a feeling he'll get it on one of these games Love is out. There are only 2. I have one more. I mean, last night he shot poorly which is unusual for him...he should shoot better, that'll give him double digit points. The assist numbers are low, and it doesn't help with Love being out, but I'm sure he'll find some more teammates against the worst D in the NBA. And finally, he had 7 rebounds last night. That isn't far off. They already played both games of Love's suspension.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:54 am ]
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SHARK wrote: Based on the little I've seen, the Timberwolves' Ricky Rubio is as good as advertised. I think he has more to work with than the Cavs' Kyrie Irving has. The one problem? I don't think Rubio's T-Wolves or Irving's Cavs are going to be significantly better anytime soon, as long as the Thunder & Nuggets are the top 2 in the Northwest Division & the Bulls are the cream of a bad Central Division crop. In plain English, Rubio's the better NBA player long term. SHARK - now that the Nuggets have lost four in a row is there a chance for Minnesota to get a little better?

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:30 am ]
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It's looking a lot more like Irvin as the season progresses.

Author:	Big Chicagoan [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:42 am ]
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Rubio has a brutal FG% lately. Killing my fantasy team. Plus, his steals have gone down considerably lately as well. I think he is definitely hitting a wall. Obviously hasn't been able to adapt to the grind.

Author:	The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:49 am ]
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Kyrie will be a good running mate for when Lebron returns there in two years.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:09 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Lebron will be a good running mate for Kyrie when he returns there in two years. Fixed

Author:	Brick [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:10 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Kyrie will be a good running mate for when Lebron returns there in two years. Until Kyrie ditches Cleveland because it sucks to live in Cleveland.

Author:	Douchebag [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:12 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote: Rubio has a brutal FG% lately. Killing my fantasy team. Did you read the scouting report? The knock on Rubio is that he's a terrible shooter.

Author:	Big Chicagoan [ Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:15 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote: Big Chicagoan wrote: Rubio has a brutal FG% lately. Killing my fantasy team. Did you read the scouting report? The knock on Rubio is that he's a terrible shooter. I knew he wasn't a good shooter. But consistently shooting 1-8, 1-7, 5-15 is just absolute shit. That is beyond terrible. That is horrific.

Author:	Bagels [ Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:45 am ]
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i was watching it....looked like just a knee bump w/ Kobe, never thought that even as they were carrying him off the court

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:45 am ]
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Wow... That's a pretty bad typo. That's the first time I've ever seen "fear" and "hope for" interchanged like that. Nah, but seriously... Nobody still thinks Rubio is better than Irving, right? Maybe imu...

Author:	Bagels [ Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:48 am ]
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FavreFan wrote: Wow... That's a pretty bad typo. That's the first time I've ever seen "fear" and "hope for" interchanged like that. Nah, but seriously... Nobody still thinks Rubio is better than Irving, right? Maybe imu... huh?

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:51 am ]
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Bagels wrote: FavreFan wrote: Wow... That's a pretty bad typo. That's the first time I've ever seen "fear" and "hope for" interchanged like that. Nah, but seriously... Nobody still thinks Rubio is better than Irving, right? Maybe imu... huh? That wasn't that hard to follow. I was making a joke that the Wolves would be better off without Rubio than with him(obviously a joke and therefore not true). The "some truth to every joke" angle comes in during the last part of the post. I still like Rubio and think he's going to be a very good PG but the fact is he is not a very good PG yet and is clearly not as good a player as Irving so far...