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Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed May 30, 2012 5:44 pm ]
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Nets
Hornets
Hornets via Timberwolves

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed May 30, 2012 6:04 pm ]
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Sacramento or Washington wins the lottery.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed May 30, 2012 6:13 pm ]
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You have to pick all three!

Author:  Colonel Angus [ Wed May 30, 2012 6:50 pm ]
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The Bulls get the first pick again.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:20 pm ]
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This shit is soooooo rigged. There is no conspiracy theory. Its a fact.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:22 pm ]
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Oh look, the team that was just heroically purchased by the Saints' owner and controversially lost Chris Paul won the lottery.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:23 pm ]
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Fix!

Author:  Douchebag [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:25 pm ]
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Anthony Davis needs that unibrow fixed. YIKES.....

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:28 pm ]
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I'm sorry, but they need to make the lottery just one ping-pong ball per team, in plain sight. The following is not good television:

1) ESPN reportress takes us to the Secret Lottery Lair and explains that the ping-pong balls yield three out of 1,000 permutations, which are distributed among the teams according to how they finished

2) Various team "dignitaries" are introduced, some of whom are selected for especially meaningless, empty interviews

3) Most of the teams are read back off in reverse order because nothing changed

4) New Orleans wins like everyone thought they would

So just do the whole thing out in the open and give every team the same odds. That'd be more fun to watch. HARDER TO RIG FOR THE NEW OWNER OF THE HORNETS TO SAY I'M SORRY ABOUT THE CHRIS PAUL THING, THOUGH.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:29 pm ]
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Great news for the Bulls. Better chance Bobcats remain terrible til 2016 now.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:31 pm ]
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They'll flip that pick before 2016, hopefully for something better than a top draft pick in that year.

Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:34 pm ]
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Probably so, but it's worth more now. This is great news for us.

Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:35 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
This shit is soooooo rigged. There is no conspiracy theory. Its a fact.

How? There's no possible way. It just isn't rigged, period.

Author:  Chris_in_joliet [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:45 pm ]
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Yep totally not rigged. :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol:

It might be the most rigged "event" in sports.

:lol:

Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:48 pm ]
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MattInTheCrown wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
This shit is soooooo rigged. There is no conspiracy theory. Its a fact.

How? There's no possible way. It just isn't rigged, period.

Unless I can have a completely transparent lottery, Im not buying it. You do realize David Stern is in charge here, right?

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed May 30, 2012 7:59 pm ]
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If they didn't want the option to massage the results, they'd do the drawing in front of everyone. Every time it comes up, Stern hems and haws about keeping it the way it is. But then again, the 1985 lottery was done in broad studio-light, and that was the most infamously rigged one of all!

Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:05 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
If they didn't want the option to massage the results, they'd do the drawing in front of everyone. Every time it comes up, Stern hems and haws about keeping it the way it is. But then again, the 1985 lottery was done in broad studio-light, and that was the most infamously rigged one of all!

Emphatic plus one. I think the youtube video was taken down cus it was so incriminating...

Author:  Colonel Angus [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:07 pm ]
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IDK why they didn't rig this thing so the Bobcats could get the first pick. I guess David Stern wants Jordan to fail.

Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:14 pm ]
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Ernst and Young manages the affair, and the drawing is done in the presence of all the lottery teams, plus four media members. There's simply no way. You really want to posit the notion that Ernst and Young is in on it?

Author:  lipidquadcab [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:18 pm ]
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MattInTheCrown wrote:
Ernst and Young manages the affair, and the drawing is done in the presence of all the lottery teams, plus four media members. There's simply no way. You really want to posit the notion that Ernst and Young is in on it?

Seems legit.

No way an accounting firm would do something that wasn't on the up and up.

Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:30 pm ]
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lipidquadcab wrote:
MattInTheCrown wrote:
Ernst and Young manages the affair, and the drawing is done in the presence of all the lottery teams, plus four media members. There's simply no way. You really want to posit the notion that Ernst and Young is in on it?

Seems legit.

No way an accounting firm would do something that wasn't on the up and up.

A $23B/year firm is going to risk its reputation on this?

And again: there's just no way to rig it. What, they make the lottery ball machines magically select the right numbers? How? Those machines are a chaotic system. Even biasing the balls couldn't possibly guarantee any given result. And then there's the fact that the NBA's credibility would also be utterly destroyed if such a scandal was proved. And then there's the fact that teams would sue the NBA to the tune of hundreds of millions for losses if a conspiracy was proved.

The NBA has far more to lose than to gain by rigging the lottery. It simply makes no sense.

Author:  conns7901 [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:35 pm ]
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Who would of won the lottery and it would not have been considered rigged?

Author:  Douchebag [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:36 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote:
Who would of won the lottery and it would not have been considered rigged?

Anyone but New Orelans.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:44 pm ]
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Yeah, I don't think anyone would've said anything if it had been, I dunno, Washington or Sacramento or Cleveland or Golden State or even dumb old Charlotte. You'd get a little suspicion if Brooklyn got an extra push to make a big splash, but nothing compared to this big sloppy mea culpa to the incoming owner of a team that really got fucked over last summer and can also use all the help it can get. "Thanks for bailing us out of this mess, sorry your market came pre-salted with a bankrupt owner, losing a superstar and getting peanuts back, oh and the flood thing. Hope this helps xoxoxo"

Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:46 pm ]
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Its not even the top 3 to me... Its the fact the order held form up until the fifth pick. That doesn't happen...

Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:47 pm ]
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MiC... Explain the ewing lottery...

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:48 pm ]
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The draft order holds every year. That's what makes this such a silly exercise. I want the Bobcats to be just as likely to draft fourteenth as they are to draft first. That would be compelling. And no tanking!

Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 8:50 pm ]
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The hired hands of these teams even looked surprise that the order held perfect form so long... It was amusing to me.

Author:  Douchebag [ Wed May 30, 2012 9:04 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
The draft order holds every year. That's what makes this such a silly exercise. I want the Bobcats to be just as likely to draft fourteenth as they are to draft first. That would be compelling. And no tanking!

The order holds every year because of the way the lottery is setup. In the lottery, every team has their "odds" of getting one of the top 3 picks. If you don't fall in any of those spots, you are automatically slotted to your appropriate pick based on record. They do this so teams like Charlotte wont end up with the last lottery pick. The worst possible pick Charlotte could have gotten is 4th.

I agree the lottery is rigged, but you don't understand how it works.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 9:07 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
The draft order holds every year. That's what makes this such a silly exercise. I want the Bobcats to be just as likely to draft fourteenth as they are to draft first. That would be compelling. And no tanking!

The order holds every year because of the way the lottery is setup. In the lottery, every team has their "odds" of getting one of the top 3 picks. If you don't fall in any of those spots, you are automatically slotted to your appropriate pick based on record. They do this so teams like Charlotte wont end up with the last lottery pick. The worst possible pick Charlotte could have gotten is 4th.

I agree the lottery is rigged, but you don't understand how it works.

I don't think either of you are right, but w/e... Hopefully Anthony Davis isn't Terrence Morris.

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