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Jbi11s wrote:

John Wall will be an all star player for a long time...

Douchebag wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

John Wall will be an all star player for a long time...

Ok DB...
John Wall Stats for this season: 16.3ppg, 8apg, 4.5rpg, 1.4spg... 36.2mpg

Here are year 2 statistics for notable PGs in the last ten years who have made more than one all star team. Just so you know, I know what Im talking about... (also rose being injured helps my argument)...

Tony Parker: 15.5ppg, 5.3apg, 2.6rpg, .9spg... 33.8mpg

Chris Paul: 17.3ppg, 8.9apg, 4.4rpg, 1.8spg... 36.8mpg

Deron Williams: 16.2ppg, 9.3apg, 3.3rpg, 1spg... 36.9mpg

Rajon Rondo: 10.6ppg, 5.1apg, 4.2rpg, 1.7spg... 30mpg

Russell Westbrook: 16.1ppg, 8apg, 4.9rpg, 1.3spg... 34.3mpg

Also, let us never ever forget FF stating, amongst other past transgressions, he would rather have Andre Iguodala or Tony Allen playing defense for him over Lebron... Silliness at its best.

Jbills is a cooler and more hip version of Brick.

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Jbills is a cooler and more hip version of Brick.

You have a strange definition of cool and hip.

Hi buddy.

-Insert Lebron meme
...Even though he is undoubtedly the best player of his generation, people still want to snipe... And it just seems so petty now... Barring injury, Lebron and Durant are going to rewrite many records by the time they retire...

Jbills is a cooler and more hip version of Brick.

Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now.

Jbi11s wrote:

So is it a meme that he often defers in crunch time or is that just something that people like to make up?

SomeGuy wrote:

And besides, LeBron took a bad Cavaliers team to the finals many years ago. Are you telling me that the NBA Finals Cavaliers team was better than this current Heat team?

The 2007 Lebron-Cavs would absolutely beat the current Heat team, and very easily if Bosh was out.

Jbi11s wrote:

Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now.

Quote?

Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now.

Jbi11s wrote:

Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now.

Instead of calling me out, why not try to explain to me why I am wrong?

Douchebag wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now.

Instead of calling me out, why not try to explain to me why I am wrong?

That team had Wally, no way they'd lose!

I don't think they could. The Cavs supporting cast was dogshit. I gotta think Wade + dogshit is better than dogshit itself.

Chalmers is better than Eric Snow/Larry Hughes
Haslem is probably better than Gooden.
Z was better than Anthony but was a statue defensively.
And Wade would cancel out any rif raff left I forgot.

Yes, Snow was bad, but he wasn't handling the ball in crunch time anyway.

FF once argued the subjective aspect of calling offensive charge calls... Truly an embarassing moment for the great white hype of csfmb nba knowledge... His rep forever shattered.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Meaningless NBA Arguments
Meaningless NBA arguments: -Luol Deng is a better basketball player than Carmelo Anthony ...It once was argued unsuccessfully by IMU that LUOL was better than Melo... Statistics won the argument. -Rick Smits is better than Dwight Howard ...To my disbelief, Hova, in a moment of sure drunken confidence once stated he'd take Rik Smits over Dwight Howard. An unbelievable assertion which makes all other nba thoughts by hova very questionable. -Magic Johnson better than MJ ...I couldn't believe my eyes as I read JoRR try to convice the board Magic was better than the goat... Come on now. -Insert Lebron meme ...Even though he is undoubtedly the best player of his generation, people still want to snipe... And it just seems so petty now... Barring injury, Lebron and Durant are going to rewrite many records by the time they retire...

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:18 pm ]
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It was the same with Jordan until he won a ring. Gotta win a title.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:35 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote: Jbi11s wrote: John Wall will be an all star player for a long time... Ok DB... John Wall Stats for this season: 16.3ppg, 8apg, 4.5rpg, 1.4spg... 36.2mpg Here are year 2 statistics for notable PGs in the last ten years who have made more than one all star team. Just so you know, I know what Im talking about... (also rose being injured helps my argument)... Tony Parker: 15.5ppg, 5.3apg, 2.6rpg, .9spg... 33.8mpg Chris Paul: 17.3ppg, 8.9apg, 4.4rpg, 1.8spg... 36.8mpg Deron Williams: 16.2ppg, 9.3apg, 3.3rpg, 1spg... 36.9mpg Rajon Rondo: 10.6ppg, 5.1apg, 4.2rpg, 1.7spg... 30mpg Russell Westbrook: 16.1ppg, 8apg, 4.9rpg, 1.3spg... 34.3mpg

Author:	Jbi11s [ Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
Also, let us never ever forget FF stating, amongst other past transgressions, he would rather have Andre Iguodala or Tony Allen playing defense for him over Lebron... Silliness at its best.

Author:	Bagels [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
Jbi11s wrote: Douchebag wrote: Jbi11s wrote: John Wall will be an all star player for a long time... Ok DB... John Wall Stats for this season: 16.3ppg, 8apg, 4.5rpg, 1.4spg... 36.2mpg Here are year 2 statistics for notable PGs in the last ten years who have made more than one all star team. Just so you know, I know what Im talking about... (also rose being injured helps my argument)... Tony Parker: 15.5ppg, 5.3apg, 2.6rpg, .9spg... 33.8mpg Chris Paul: 17.3ppg, 8.9apg, 4.4rpg, 1.8spg... 36.8mpg Deron Williams: 16.2ppg, 9.3apg, 3.3rpg, 1spg... 36.9mpg Rajon Rondo: 10.6ppg, 5.1apg, 4.2rpg, 1.7spg... 30mpg Russell Westbrook: 16.1ppg, 8apg, 4.9rpg, 1.3spg... 34.3mpg you left out turnovers

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Author:	312player [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:48 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: Also, let us never ever forget FF stating, amongst other past transgressions, he would rather have Andre Iguodala or Tony Allen playing defense for him over Lebron... Silliness at its best. that belongs in bad sports thoughts ..if he said that

Author:	Jbi11s [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:36 pm ]
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@Bagels... I think all young guards turn the ball over a lot. Around 3/game... So idk... It usually gets better. @312... He did say that, and actually got heated when I disagreed with him.

Author:	spmack [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:13 pm ]
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JBills, I'd be with you if this thread didn't have such a "I'm smart and you're not" vibe.

Author:	The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:17 pm ]
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Jbills is a cooler and more hip version of Brick.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Jbills is a cooler and more hip version of Brick. I was thinking he was more like 312player. JBill - I never said id rather have Iggy or Allen playing defense over LeBron, I said they were better on ball defenders. Because they are. Im not worried about what you or 312 think because you've both already demonstrated multiple times that you two are retarded.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:46 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Jbills is a cooler and more hip version of Brick. You have a strange definition of cool and hip. Hi buddy.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:21 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
Jbi11s wrote: -Insert Lebron meme ...Even though he is undoubtedly the best player of his generation, people still want to snipe... And it just seems so petty now... Barring injury, Lebron and Durant are going to rewrite many records by the time they retire... So is it a meme that he often defers in crunch time or is that just something that people like to make up?

Author:	Brick [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:16 am ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Jbills is a cooler and more hip version of Brick. I'm so cool and hip I can walk in any neighborhood in Chicago.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now.

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Author:	FavreFan [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:06 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now. Quote?

Author:	Jbi11s [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
badrogue17 wrote: Jbi11s wrote: -Insert Lebron meme ...Even though he is undoubtedly the best player of his generation, people still want to snipe... And it just seems so petty now... Barring injury, Lebron and Durant are going to rewrite many records by the time they retire... So is it a meme that he often defers in crunch time or is that just something that people like to make up? I don't think he defers more times than not... He has deferred more than say Kobe/MJ, but LBJ has dif talents... Im too young to remember if Magic handled end ofgame situations like LBJ, but James still has a 2nd half of his career to play.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
Douchebag wrote: SomeGuy wrote: And besides, LeBron took a bad Cavaliers team to the finals many years ago. Are you telling me that the NBA Finals Cavaliers team was better than this current Heat team? The 2007 Lebron-Cavs would absolutely beat the current Heat team, and very easily if Bosh was out.

Author:	Irish Boy [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:57 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now. Quote? John Kirk Rule

Author:	Douchebag [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:25 am ]
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Jbi11s wrote: Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now. Instead of calling me out, why not try to explain to me why I am wrong?

Author:	Bagels [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:45 am ]
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Douchebag wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now. Instead of calling me out, why not try to explain to me why I am wrong? That team had Wally, no way they'd lose!

Author:	The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:13 am ]
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Douchebag wrote: Instead of calling me out, why not try to explain to me why I am wrong? I have to agree here. I love you Bi11s, but elaborating helps to foster good discussions.

Author:	Douchebag [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
Bagels wrote: Douchebag wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Just recently, DB suggested the 2007 Cavaliers would beat this 2012 miami heat team... Come on now. Instead of calling me out, why not try to explain to me why I am wrong? That team had Wally, no way they'd lose! ...and a hungry Ira Newbie. But seriously, that team featured a Lebron that was much more hungrier. He put together one of the most dominating performances I have ever witnessed against the Pistons that year in the conference finals. At worst, he cancels himself out with current Lebron. The rest of the squad could easily beat Wade + Collection of dogshit.

Author:	FavreFan [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:20 am ]
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I don't think they could. The Cavs supporting cast was dogshit. I gotta think Wade + dogshit is better than dogshit itself. Chalmers is better than Eric Snow/Larry Hughes Haslem is probably better than Gooden. Z was better than Anthony but was a statue defensively. And Wade would cancel out any rif raff left I forgot.

Author:	RFDC [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:51 am ]
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The Heat have Eddie Curry, discussion over.

Author:	Douchebag [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:59 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
FavreFan wrote: I don't think they could. The Cavs supporting cast was dogshit. I gotta think Wade + dogshit is better than dogshit itself. Chalmers is better than Eric Snow/Larry Hughes Haslem is probably better than Gooden. Z was better than Anthony but was a statue defensively. And Wade would cancel out any rif raff left I forgot. The Cavs supporting cast played much better together as a cohesive unit. Big Z & Verajao are no slouches either. Yes, Snow was bad, but he wasn't handling the ball in crunch time anyway.

Author:	Bagels [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:37 am ]
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Douchebag wrote: Yes, Snow was bad, but he wasn't handling the ball in crunch time anyway. i wonder if he ever fell asleep on the bench during games

Author:	Jbi11s [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Meaningless NBA Arguments
FF once argued the subjective aspect of calling offensive charge calls... Truly an embarassing moment for the great white hype of csfmb nba knowledge... His rep forever shattered.

Author:	Darkside [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:49 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: FF once argued the subjective aspect of calling offensive charge calls... Truly an embarassing moment for the great white hype of csfmb nba knowledge... His rep forever shattered. What is more embarassing was when jbills implied that any officiating at any level is objective. Kind of a stupid thing to say.

Author:	Chris_in_joliet [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:51 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: FF once argued the subjective aspect of calling offensive charge calls... Truly an embarassing moment for the great white hype of csfmb nba knowledge... His rep forever shattered. Jbills once got on the message board here and thought someone here hacked his internet.............his rep forever shattered.