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JAMES HARDEN TRADED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:45 pm ]
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Is his beard part of the deal?

Author:  donspiracy [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:47 pm ]
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What the hell?? Guess they didn't want to give him that max deal. What does this mean for Lin? Bench/mascot?

Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:51 pm ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Along with All-Star guard James Harden, the Thunder will send Cole Aldridge, Lazr Hayward and Daquan Cook to the Rockets, source tells Y!


His name is Lazr? As in Laser??????

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:53 pm ]
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Thunder just got much better. Kevin Martin is a damn good player. Wow, the Rockets are gonna be bad. Harden kinda showed what he was in the Finals last spring.

Author:  A7X [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:57 pm ]
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
Is his beard part of the deal?



By cracky!

Author:  cpguy [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:04 pm ]
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Houston sends two 2013 first-round picks (from Dallas and Toronto) to Oklahoma CIty, source tells Y!

Author:  cpguy [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:05 pm ]
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That's a helluva haul for OKC.

Damn.

Author:  cpguy [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:06 pm ]
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Houston also sends a 2013 second-round pick (via Charlotte) to Thunder.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:07 pm ]
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Damn man. How bad did Houston want James fuckin Harden? :|

Author:  FavreFan [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:08 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Thunder just got much better. Kevin Martin is a damn good player. Wow, the Rockets are gonna be bad. Harden kinda showed what he was in the Finals last spring.

I disagree. I think Harden is a better player than Kevin Martin.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:10 pm ]
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Harden is a jump shooter. Martin gives you more looks offensively.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:21 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Harden is a jump shooter. Martin gives you more looks offensively.

Again, I respectfully disagree. I think Martin is more of a jump shooter, Harden is more versatile and better at attacking the basket. He can also play point which is important.

Author:  donspiracy [ Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:23 pm ]
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That's 4 million dollars. Great that the GM moved him when he wouldn't sign.

Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:24 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Thunder just got much better. Kevin Martin is a damn good player. Wow, the Rockets are gonna be bad. Harden kinda showed what he was in the Finals last spring.

I disagree. I think Harden is a better player than Kevin Martin.


That's because he is.

Author:  City of Fools [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:28 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Thunder just got much better. Kevin Martin is a damn good player. Wow, the Rockets are gonna be bad. Harden kinda showed what he was in the Finals last spring.

I disagree. I think Harden is a better player than Kevin Martin.

yes.

Author:  conns7901 [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:30 am ]
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I don't think Harden is a max player you build your team around.

Author:  City of Fools [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:32 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Harden is a jump shooter. Martin gives you more looks offensively.

Again, I respectfully disagree. I think Martin is more of a jump shooter, Harden is more versatile and better at attacking the basket. He can also play point which is important.

I'll say this though, in my limited viewing, Martin is more inclined to handle the scoring load on a regular basis. He just gets baskets. But Harden is the better player, at the moment. Don't think he's at full potential yet.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:34 am ]
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conns7901 wrote:
I don't think Harden is a max player you build your team around.


I agree, but he is exactly the type of player who gets a max deal because some team is desperate enough to get name players on their roster (see: Carlos Boozer, Joe Johnson, ect.)

Author:  Makaveli [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:36 am ]
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This was a terrible move by OKC in the short term. They just hand the Lakers the West. Harden would be no worst than the 2nd best player on nearly every team in the NBA. The guy is a stud. You don't break up a potential dynasty for $4M. You can't have numbers guys making basketball decisions.

Author:  City of Fools [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:39 am ]
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Makaveli wrote:
This was a terrible move by OKC in the short term. They just hand the Lakers the West. Harden would be no worst than the 2nd best player on nearly every team in the NBA. The guy is a stud. You don't break up a potential dynasty for $4M. You can't have numbers guys making basketball decisions.

uh...Martin may not be Harden, but he will fit just fine with the current OKC core. They'll contend for the western conf. crown.

Author:  Makaveli [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:53 am ]
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City of Fools wrote:
Makaveli wrote:
This was a terrible move by OKC in the short term. They just hand the Lakers the West. Harden would be no worst than the 2nd best player on nearly every team in the NBA. The guy is a stud. You don't break up a potential dynasty for $4M. You can't have numbers guys making basketball decisions.

uh...Martin may not be Harden, but he will fit just fine with the current OKC core. They'll contend for the western conf. crown.


I don't think so. Harden was instant offense. Martin doesn't have the ability to run an offense and he's 99 years old and injury prone. Besides he'll be gone after the year.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:54 am ]
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City of Fools wrote:
Makaveli wrote:
This was a terrible move by OKC in the short term. They just hand the Lakers the West. Harden would be no worst than the 2nd best player on nearly every team in the NBA. The guy is a stud. You don't break up a potential dynasty for $4M. You can't have numbers guys making basketball decisions.

uh...Martin may not be Harden, but he will fit just fine with the current OKC core. They'll contend for the western conf. crown.


Plus they got the 12th pick in this past draft, and two other 1st round picks. Presti is the NBA's Billy Beane. OKC may not win the championship, but they will be one of the best teams in the league for years to come. And in a small market, you have to be able to keep the people coming to the games.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:59 am ]
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City of Fools wrote:
Makaveli wrote:
This was a terrible move by OKC in the short term. They just hand the Lakers the West. Harden would be no worst than the 2nd best player on nearly every team in the NBA. The guy is a stud. You don't break up a potential dynasty for $4M. You can't have numbers guys making basketball decisions.

uh...Martin may not be Harden, but he will fit just fine with the current OKC core. They'll contend for the western conf. crown.

Yeah the Thunder will be fine. There's quite a few teams right now where Harden wouldn't be the 2nd best player on the team yet.

Author:  sinicalypse [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:07 am ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
OKC may not win the championship, but they will be one of the best teams in the league for years to come.

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incidentally, you know what really galvanizes a small market team's fanbase to show up at games? winning a championship or two.

it's easy to look at stats and say harden isn't a max or whatever.... but like, does anyone remember those cold blooded shots he consistently drilled versus the spurs in last season's playoffs? he singlehandedly bailed out KD and put that team on his back... that's a thing, IMO.

kevin martin can seemingly come out of nowhere (aka houston, as it were) and drop ~15pts in ~8-10 minutes.... but then he's prone to disappear for ~20-25 minutes at a time. and i honestly have no idea if he's going to be challenging tyreke evans in the next annual world's largest nutsack competition.... but james harden had the stones to drill some cold clutch shots. that will be missed in OKC more than the tangible points/measurables.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:09 am ]
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If the third best player on your team is your go to guy in the clutch, then you aren't winning any championships anyways.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:27 am ]
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bwahaha, okc just made out like bandits. harden is balls. he was good because a good team surrounded him. a great role player. on the rockets, he will be awful. people will wonder how he declined so fast. god damn okc is on a roll. they have a smart front office, thats for sure.

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