Howard in the 90's would be like the 6-7 best center tops.

I sorta disagree with that. I think maybe his back or heart issues have something to do with him not playing well, but him 2-3 years ago could be top 5-6 in the mid 90s.

I can't think of anybody on that list I'd put him ahead of.

I've been on record as saying that Dwight Howard is one of the few stars from today's NBA that would not be able to hang with his counterparts from the 80s and 90s. If Brad Daugherty in his prime were in today's NBA, he'd be the best center in the league.

Dwight Howard would be Mark West if this were 1993.

Im tired of hearing this. Until further notice, he's barely an All Star.

Even lower than that, I think.

Olajuwon
Robinson
Ewing
O'Neal
Mourning
Smits
Webber
Mutombo
Daugherty
Divac
Camby
Sabonis

Dwight Howard is not better than any of those players in their primes. I'd probably put him 13th or 14th. Maybe he beats out Kevin Willis....maybe.

geez....let's slow down a bit. yeah he's having a bad year so far and he's a bitch for the whole trade situation and all

but cmon.....Smits???? Divac ?

If Divac was in the league now he would have gotten a suspension by the end of the first week for flopping

How can it be that the game is so much better now when the best center in the league isn't as good as Vlade Divac?

Don't confuse me with whatever imaginary argument you had with somebody.

Kid, stop knocking out the old men. Especially my guy JORR.

Yeah I am with bagels here.

You are out of your damn mind if you think Smits and Divac were better than Howard.

I never said the game was much better now. Don't confuse me with whatever imaginary argument you had with somebody. I've always said that the 90s was my favorite era in NBA history. I hate when you do that shit. Get it right, man.

I called him Kevin Willis that can block shots a couple years ago and was laughed at. Once again I give thanks to my vision for helping me see something well in advance of others. He has some of the most empty stats you will ever see. He's not a winner.

That wasn't directed at you in particular. I'm asking the question because it seems to be a pretty widely held opinion on this board and in general. If I'm not mistaken, there's a radio show that you like a lot where callers are regularly excoriated for such thoughts. I've heard time and time again how great guys like Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard are when whatever team they go to gets worse.

Anyway, I agree with your general premise, but I think you've probably gone too far with a couple guys on that list.

It's pretty much a concensus on this board that B&B don't really know anything about the NBA. Kid has stated as much many times.

It's idiotic to call him average.

Your vision is still making you see imaginary things. I said he isn't a superstar. It's idiotic to call him average. Kevin Willis is average. And like bagels said, he's been a superstar in the past. He's a very talented guy. He's just not playing like one right now.

Most people would agree that Reggie Miller is without a doubt a HoF player. I don't know anyone that would say Dale Ellis is a HoF player but they have very similar numbers.

Yeah, it's funny how that is. It may just be perception, but I think of Miller as the centerpiece of his teams while Ellis was just a shooter. That probably isn't really fair.

yes it is.

Yeah, it's funny how that is. It may just be perception, but I think of Miller as the centerpiece of his teams while Ellis was just a shooter. That probably isn't really fair.