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Author: | Apologist [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:26 pm ] |
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Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:29 pm ] |
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He should be available soon enough.. |
Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:30 pm ] |
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![]() Cannibalism!!! |
Author: | Apologist [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:36 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: :lol: Cannibalism!!! ![]() |
Author: | veganfan21 [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:38 pm ] |
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Never understood why Skiles went to MIL. That seems like a place where an up and coming coach could build his resume before moving on to bigger and better things. Skiles is a proven commodity and I think someone like him should aim higher. |
Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Select the Bucks next head coach |
veganfan21 wrote: Never understood why Skiles went to MIL. That seems like a place where an up and coming coach could build his resume before moving on to bigger and better things. Skiles is a proven commodity and I think someone like him should aim higher. Skiles would be better off coaching in college. |
Author: | RFDC [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:00 pm ] |
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Author: | Apologist [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:00 pm ] |
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Skiles will lose a team after a year or two... guys just quit on him. |
Author: | Colonel Angus [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:05 pm ] |
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I really hope they consider this poll & go w/ Hawger. |
Author: | Peoria Matt [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:35 pm ] |
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conns7901 wrote: Skiles would be better off coaching in college. Texted in the "Skiles to northwestern" idea when Carmody was fired. Schuster laughed it off, saying Skiles would blow his top trying to deal with college kids. It made me feel better about the idea. |
Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Select the Bucks next head coach |
Sampson. Shaw would be the best option but he wants a chance to have success. That won't happen in Milwaukee. |
Author: | veganfan21 [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:38 pm ] |
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Peoria Matt wrote: conns7901 wrote: Skiles would be better off coaching in college. Texted in the "Skiles to northwestern" idea when Carmody was fired. Schuster laughed it off, saying Skiles would blow his top trying to deal with college kids. It made me feel better about the idea. ![]() Anyway, are you all saying Skiles would be better suited to college because he's only got to get guys to listen to him for a max of four years, at most? I don't watch any college ball so I just wanted to see if this is the rationale behind the thought. |
Author: | Apologist [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:48 pm ] |
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Yeah... he kind of throws guys that don't buy in to his grindyball under the bus. It doesn't really resonate in the Association with guys making 5x the money he's making. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:49 pm ] |
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Pretty much. Shorter seasons, too. There's also the conjecture that college players would be more likely to "buy in" than pros. I know everyone shat on Charlie Weis for talking about how he'd bring a "decided schematic advantage" by descending from the pros to college, but I do believe Skiles could immediately be a better coach than a lot of guys in the college ranks. It's not the sort of experiment you'd try in a high-stakes program, but I think he could work wonders with a distressed asset like Nebraska basketball, for instance. What are some other power-conference schools that are big on the football side but not the basketball side? Places like that. |
Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Select the Bucks next head coach |
veganfan21 wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: conns7901 wrote: Skiles would be better off coaching in college. Texted in the "Skiles to northwestern" idea when Carmody was fired. Schuster laughed it off, saying Skiles would blow his top trying to deal with college kids. It made me feel better about the idea. ![]() Anyway, are you all saying Skiles would be better suited to college because he's only got to get guys to listen to him for a max of four years, at most? I don't watch any college ball so I just wanted to see if this is the rationale behind the thought. Skiles can coach in the NBA. He's a great coach. He needs better people skills or a team with players like the Bulls have. Look at that team that upset the Heat. It's amazing that he was able to win with that. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:51 pm ] |
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Hinrich, Gordon, and Deng were playing really well and the Heat were banged up and didn't care. It wasn't that amazing. We all saw it coming. What was more impressive that year was coming back from 0-3 against the Pistons to about halftime of game 6 before the motor finally went out. |
Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:52 pm ] |
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Curious Hair wrote: Pretty much. Shorter seasons, too. There's also the conjecture that college players would be more likely to "buy in" than pros. I know everyone shat on Charlie Weis for talking about how he'd bring a "decided schematic advantage" by descending from the pros to college, but I do believe Skiles could immediately be a better coach than a lot of guys in the college ranks. It's not the sort of experiment you'd try in a high-stakes program, but I think he could work wonders with a distressed asset like Nebraska basketball, for instance. What are some other power-conference schools that are big on the football side but not the basketball side? Places like that. Skiles lacks the charisma that it would take to recruit. |
Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:53 pm ] |
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Curious Hair wrote: Hinrich, Gordon, and Deng were playing really well and the Heat were banged up and didn't care. It wasn't that amazing. We all saw it coming. What was more impressive that year was coming back from 0-3 against the Pistons to about halftime of game 6 before the motor finally went out. That's not how I remember it. The Heat were healthy but the Bulls were hungry. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:06 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Pretty much. Shorter seasons, too. There's also the conjecture that college players would be more likely to "buy in" than pros. I know everyone shat on Charlie Weis for talking about how he'd bring a "decided schematic advantage" by descending from the pros to college, but I do believe Skiles could immediately be a better coach than a lot of guys in the college ranks. It's not the sort of experiment you'd try in a high-stakes program, but I think he could work wonders with a distressed asset like Nebraska basketball, for instance. What are some other power-conference schools that are big on the football side but not the basketball side? Places like that. Skiles lacks the charisma that it would take to recruit. "Hi, I'm Scott Skiles. I've won over 400 games in the NBA. Play for my team and you are likely to win." |
Author: | Drop In [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:09 pm ] |
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RFDC wrote: ![]() Did this seriously get the no sell treatment? I won't have that. |
Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:10 pm ] |
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Curious Hair wrote: Nas wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Pretty much. Shorter seasons, too. There's also the conjecture that college players would be more likely to "buy in" than pros. I know everyone shat on Charlie Weis for talking about how he'd bring a "decided schematic advantage" by descending from the pros to college, but I do believe Skiles could immediately be a better coach than a lot of guys in the college ranks. It's not the sort of experiment you'd try in a high-stakes program, but I think he could work wonders with a distressed asset like Nebraska basketball, for instance. What are some other power-conference schools that are big on the football side but not the basketball side? Places like that. Skiles lacks the charisma that it would take to recruit. "Hi, I'm Scott Skiles. I've won over 400 games in the NBA. Play for my team and you are likely to win." Parent: Will my son start? He can score the basketball. I know he doesn't play defense but none of the other top teams in the country that are recruiting him cares if he plays defense. |
Author: | RFDC [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:14 pm ] |
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Drop In wrote: RFDC wrote: ![]() Did this seriously get the no sell treatment? I won't have that. ![]() |
Author: | NearWessSideHussra [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:29 pm ] |
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If Thibs has an assistant who could take some of his coaching DNA North, that's who a small-market team like the Bucks needs. Win without a superstar, or with your superstar in street clothes. |
Author: | cpguy [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:01 am ] |
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Author: | Hawg Ass [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:02 am ] |
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Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:04 am ] |
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veganfan21 wrote: Never understood why Skiles went to MIL. That seems like a place where an up and coming coach could build his resume before moving on to bigger and better things. Skiles is a proven commodity and I think someone like him should aim higher. You and I will vehemently disagree with each other on Skiles then. I think Scott Skiles is truly a taskmaster, "get guys to try hard for one year and then completely grate on them" type. And then, once his complete lack of interpersonal skills and inability to relate to players and coaching staff wears on everyone, he tips out the back door while passing the buck saying, "Well I couldn't win with these guys. They aren't talented enough and they won't listen." Scott Skiles in my opinion doesn't deserve another NBA coaching job and as Curious Hair has opined, is much better suited for college. |
Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Select the Bucks next head coach |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: You and I will vehemently disagree with each other on Skiles then. I think Scott Skiles is truly a taskmaster, "get guys to try hard for one year and then completely grate on them" type. And then, once his complete lack of interpersonal skills and inability to relate to players and coaching staff wears on everyone, he tips out the back door while passing the buck saying, "Well I couldn't win with these guys. They aren't talented enough and they won't listen." Scott Skiles in my opinion doesn't deserve another NBA coaching job and as Curious Hair has opined, is much better suited for college. I pretty much agree with this. If this were earlier in his career, I'd say something like *IF* he can work on his interpersonal skills, then you'd have a good coach here, but he's a mid-career guy and has turned a lot of players off. But I will say, in terms of just basketball and not coaching men, I don't think he is an average coach. To me, that's what is most disappointing about Skiles: he seems to have the talent, but gets in his own way more often than not. |
Author: | SHARK [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Select the Bucks next head coach |
I heard ESPN/ABC's Bill Simmons mention this yesterday after the Heat finished off the Bucks in that 4-game sweep. Simmons says the Bucks are supposedly up for sale, and I've got to think that Milwaukee might not want to pay a high-profile, marquee name and they won't re0s. The Bucks haven't been NBA relevant in some 25 years. The next Bucks' HC will be paid a very small salary by NBA standards. I don't know what they've been up to since they played, but the 2 guys with Bucks' connections to the past might be who they might go with. Sidney Moncrief & Paul Pressey. |
Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:15 pm ] |
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SHARK wrote: The Bucks haven't been NBA relevant in some 25 years. Not true. |
Author: | SHARK [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:15 pm ] |
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: SHARK wrote: The Bucks haven't been NBA relevant in some 25 years. Not true. OKC, that's what Bill Simmons said. |
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