How would you rank the best players of all time based on stats and titles?

1. Russell
2. Kareem
3. Jordan
4. Kobe
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Wilt
8. Duncan
9. Shaq
10. Roberston

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IDK you have it pretty close. I don't care about number one but your group is good.

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I prefer to separate Kobe's 5 rings into two categories:

3 rings: he was the second best player on a team that employed the best player on earth at the time. no one was stopping shaq from 2000-2003.

2 rings: unquestioned leader on both squads.

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Kobe was the closer though. That was an important role because Shaq couldn't shoot free throws.

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1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Shaq
6. LeBron
7. Bird
8. Kobe
9. Kareem
10. The Big O

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How do you not have LeBron up there?

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LeBron doesn't have the career stats yet. How do you have Kareem #9 and Jordan #1?

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Because I never as a basketball fan actually saw Kareem dominate in the pros like he did in college. I go back to the Bulls/Warriors battle (perspective only), Artis vs. Kareem and even vaguely Clyde Frazier winning titles. I don't remember Kareem ever living up to the legend being pushed as early as the mid-late 70s. And he played another 12-15 years. Most overrated player based upon my memories as a sports fan & the numbers. If I didn't have a buzz, I might push him out the top 10 altogether as defense factors in.

And Jordan is No. 1 for me given the lack of actual competition for Russell's Celtics. All he had to do was try and balance (somewhat) Wilt, and the Celtics were all but guaranteed titles.

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I understand but this isn't your typical top 10 list though. I was ranking them solely off stats and rings. Jordan will always be #1 on my list if I include intangibles and everything else he brought to the game.

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Kareem should get the love for being a machine and consistency not penalized.

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Agree, Russell had like 6 teams in the league! 8? 12?

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