I don't think you can put Lebron below 2 just yet.

Are we assuming Joakim comes back at full-strength?

I can. I don't mean this in a condescending way, just one game, but did you see last Thursdays game between them and the Spurs? He couldn't get past Kawhi. He doesn't have the athleticism any longer. Kawhi can outplay him every time face to face now. And he's getting better and LeBron is clearly on the decline(although he's obviously still really damn good). Advanced stats favor Kawhi over Lebron. IMO, the eye test does too, although I haven't seen as many games from each this year as I'd like. I think you can make a case LeBron is still better, but you can't just dismiss the argument.

Curry might be the 3rd best overall player on his team.

but in terms of net efficiency the Warriors are better in the minutes played by Iguodala than anybody else.

The Warriors have outscored opponents by 20.8 points per 100 possessions with Iguodala on the court, 18.1 with Green and 17.4 with Curry.

James
Durant
Curry
Davis
Westbrook
Harden

Why is Anthony Davis on the list? He is about to miss the playoffs for the third year out of four and only made it because of a tie breaker and Durant injury last yr. There is enough talent in New Orleans to make the playoffs if he is really that good. Their record this yr is 13-27

Why is Anthony Davis on the list? He is about to miss the playoffs for the third year out of four and only made it because of a tie breaker and Durant injury last yr. There is enough talent in New Orleans to make the playoffs if he is really that good. Their record this yr is 13-27

So we judge how good an individual player is by how the team plays?

I don't think that is really fair to Davis?

I don't think there is as much talent there as you think.

I hate to invoke the name but that has always been the argument for Carmelo bashers. chronic loser who only puts up numbers on a losing team. They conveniently ignore that he has made every team that he has ever been on better. Made the playoffs first nine yrs of his career, yet that doesn't stop the detractors. Davis should be held to a similar standard if we are going to talk about best in the league. Should be able to get his team to the playoffs at least.

Anthony Davis is 22.

No doubt Lebron is slowing down and Kawhi is on the rise. I just don't think his offensive game is quite where it has to be to be put above Lebron yet. That is not a knock on Kawhi at all, he is really good right now.

My top 5 right now would be

Curry
Lebron
Durant
Kawhi
Davis

Apparently you must have forgot that Melo was 19 when he entered the league. Save your laughter. First nine years made the playoffs! First nine years! Save your laughter until you actually have something to laugh about.

Just stop.

Carmelo has played 14 seasons. Davis is in number 4. No one was bashing Carmelo for lack of playoff success in year 4 either.

Just stop.

Carmelo has played 14 seasons. Davis is in number 4. No one was bashing Carmelo for lack of playoff success in year 4 either.

1 Damian Lillard 24.4 PPG, 19.9 FGA, 41.7% FG%
2 DeMarcus Cousins 25.9 PPG, 19.8 FGA, 43.8% FG%
3 Stephen Curry 30.0 PPG, 19.6 FGA, 51.0% FG%
4 James Harden 27.5 PPG, 19.2 FGA, 42.0% FG%
5 LeBron James 25.3 PPG, 19.1 FGA, 50.1% FG%
6 Russell Westbrook 24.2 PPG, 18.5 FGA, 45.5% FG%
7 Blake Griffin 23.2 PPG, 18.4 FGA, 50.8% FG%
8 Paul George 23.9 PPG, 18.3 FGA , 41.2% FG%
9 C.J. McCollum 20.5 PPG, 18.2 FGA, 43.5% FG%
10 Carmelo Anthony 21.5 PPG, 17.8 FGA, 43.0% FG%

I knew that was the point he was making. I bet he brings up things he debated with his wife 20 years ago or things that happened between he and his siblings 45 years ago. Never met someone who has to be right about everything.

Now you have met him. Just be consistent is all. Brick is spinning and you are co- signing as usual

Just stop.

Carmelo has played 14 seasons. Davis is in number 4. No one was bashing Carmelo for lack of playoff success in year 4 either.

Its hard to have playoff success when you are not even making the playoffs. That's not the argument I am making and something tells me you know it. The spin has begun. Anthony has been characterized as a loser and you have been the ring leader of it. He made the playoffs the first 9 years of his career. Davis has only made the playoffs once and that was rather dubious, yet you have excuses at the ready. Not surprising.

I didn't say anything about Carmelo when he was 22. In fact, I was a big fan.

Then, the rest of his career happened...