If this has legs the Bulls will have to seriously consider it. Orlando's first round pick would probably be a top 12 pick. Vukevic is top 5 or 6 center and Oladipo is the type of athlete that would be tailor made for Hoiberg's system.

Very interesting that it is the Bulls and not Magic who appear to have proposed this trade. They obviously don't consider Butler to be a franchise player. There also must be questions as to his overall impact on the team too.

The rumor is the Bulls offered it and it was rejected. Nothing for the Bulls to seriously consider.


I really don't know how interesting that is. "They" also thought Hoiberg would be a better coach than Thibs and thought McDermott was worth trading up for. Not sure I want "they" on my side in the Jimmy Butler debate.

I've read they are going to offer Gasol 20 mil per year. I highly doubt anyone other than the Bulls is dumb enough to do that.

I read that on a Bulls FB page too. I really fucking hope there isn't a shred of truth to that. Even with the new TV money that would be inexcusable.

The Chicago Bulls cannot appease Jimmy Butler this season, so a trip to the NBA Finals is highly unlikely.

The rumor is the Bulls offered it and it was rejected. Nothing for the Bulls to seriously consider.


I really don't know how interesting that is. "They" also thought Hoiberg would be a better coach than Thibs and thought McDermott was worth trading up for. Not sure I want "they" on my side in the Jimmy Butler debate.

Jimmy Butler is really their only tradeable asset. His value is as high as its ever going to be. If you can obtain 3 potential starters you do it. Know other Bull has as much value. He is not a good fit for Hoiball, so Paxson would be an idiot not to at least think about it. The Bulls have to get younger and more talented. This is Taj. Gbison and Deng all over again. Better to get a rid of a guy too early as opposed to too late.

FF I believe he is saying that the Bulls held onto those guys until they were in decline. Clearly that is the case with Taj but it was more debatable with Deng.

Yeah, I don't think that is fair either. Butler just got good like two years ago and seems to still be improving. I'm pretty sure he's not on the decline right now. But my main point to him was that it's not an offer the Bulls can "consider". They reportedly offered it and it was rejected. They would most likely have to settle for less than that if they want to move Butler.

Yeah you're right about "consider" should not have been placed in there. I'm not saying that he is in decline. That's the problem though. You don't trade him once it becomes apparent that he is in decline. If you know GMs know also. You trade him before the decline starts so that you can maximize his value. You also trade him if you don't believe that he is a good fit for what you are trying to do.

So the front office is in favor of trading Butler supposedly because he's a bad fit for the offense, but they're going to make re-signing Gasol a top priority?

I'm confident that they made deals with Gasol and Dunleavy under the table.

Can the Bulls also get Scott Skiles out of a deal?

As a selfish Bulls fan, I hope they keep Butler. But as a Butler fan, I know it is better for his success to play under a better coach in Skiles, and for a front office that better recognizes talent.

I grew up a Magic fan. I could see myself switching back. League Pass would help me out.