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 Post subject: Jake Arrieta 2018
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:25 pm 
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Tough start so far. 2IP, 3R, 2 ER - 45 pitches!


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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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We should have a tracker of Arrieta/Darvish comparative stats through the year, like FIP & HRs allowed.

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We should have a tracker of Arrieta/Darvish comparative stats through the year, like FIP & HRs allowed.

Or maybe you should try pissing up a rope .

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Jake is going to give up a lot of bombs in Philly in that band box.


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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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4-2 , 2.45 ERA so far .

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4-2 , 2.45 ERA so far .


Now 5-2, 2.16

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Theo and Jed fucked this up. A large black mark that hurts the club for years.

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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A large black mark that hurts the club for years.

Maybe Heyward will opt out?


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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Theo and Jed fucked this up. A large black mark that hurts the club for years.

How so?

They offered the contract given to Darvish first to Jake. Jake rejected and then signed for less with Philadephia.

It sucks Darvish blows but watcha gonna do?


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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Jake is a better pitcher, so you offer him the deal he is worth, first of all.

And it wasn't the same contract. Less guaranteed and no incentives.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/05/ ... offer.html

I'm sure a lot of inferior pitchers would have taken a contract that Arrieta declined. Jake got $75M for 3 and will end up getting more than the $120M the Cubs offered over those same years. He will not have 'taken less.'

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Jake is a better pitcher, so you offer him the deal he is worth, first of all.

And it wasn't the same contract. Less guaranteed and no incentives.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/05/ ... offer.html

I'm sure a lot of inferior pitchers would have taken a contract that Arrieta declined. Jake got $75M for 3 and will end up getting more than the $120M the Cubs offered over those same years. He will not have 'taken less.'

i thought darvish could get 150M over 6 if he hits all incentives. arrieta maxes out 125/5?

are darvish incentives ridiculously high?


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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Kirkwood wrote:
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Jake is a better pitcher, so you offer him the deal he is worth, first of all.

And it wasn't the same contract. Less guaranteed and no incentives.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/05/ ... offer.html

I'm sure a lot of inferior pitchers would have taken a contract that Arrieta declined. Jake got $75M for 3 and will end up getting more than the $120M the Cubs offered over those same years. He will not have 'taken less.'

i thought darvish could get 150M over 6 if he hits all incentives. arrieta maxes out 125/5?

are darvish incentives ridiculously high?

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Sources: Chances of Darvish getting to $150M with #Cubs quite slim; would need to win multiple Cy Young awards. His guarantee is $126M over six years, making contract the longest and richest free-agent deal of off-season.


Jake's is a max of 5 years, $135M, and only $10M of that is based on finishing in the Top X of Cy Young voting in 2021 and 2022. (The other $10M above guaranteed is just based on games started.) And there is a good chance that he just opts out of 2021 and 2022 and signs another 3-4 year contract that jumps the total value of the 3 year $75M contract and the second contract to over $150M or $160M.

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Jake went off on his team today after the game. Said they're the worst in doing defensive shifts. Meaning they don't do it at all. He said 'copy the best' which I guess means Maddon/Cubs.


https://www.mlb.com/phillies/video/c-2117658083

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 667946002/


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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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I believe the Cubs shifted the "least" (or it was close) of all teams last year.


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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Jake went off on his team today after the game. Said they're the worst in doing defensive shifts. Meaning they don't do it at all. He said 'copy the best' which I guess means Maddon/Cubs.


https://www.mlb.com/phillies/video/c-2117658083

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 667946002/


Damn, he didn't hold back.

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HawaiiYou wrote:
Jake went off on his team today after the game. Said they're the worst in doing defensive shifts. Meaning they don't do it at all. He said 'copy the best' which I guess means Maddon/Cubs.


https://www.mlb.com/phillies/video/c-2117658083

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 667946002/


Damn, he didn't hold back.

Roid rage?


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leashyourkids wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
Jake went off on his team today after the game. Said they're the worst in doing defensive shifts. Meaning they don't do it at all. He said 'copy the best' which I guess means Maddon/Cubs.


https://www.mlb.com/phillies/video/c-2117658083

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 667946002/


Damn, he didn't hold back.

Roid rage?


That was my first thought. He must have started juicing after he left the Cubs.

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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angry phillies come in to play cubs for 3.

they were having a good year until this last series vs the giants.

i have a feeling not everyone likes the phillies young manager. But he's been doing a great job so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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leashyourkids wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
Jake went off on his team today after the game. Said they're the worst in doing defensive shifts. Meaning they don't do it at all. He said 'copy the best' which I guess means Maddon/Cubs.


https://www.mlb.com/phillies/video/c-2117658083

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 667946002/


Damn, he didn't hold back.

Roid rage?


That was my first thought. He must have started juicing after he left the Cubs.


not sure why they were complaining about the HR from McCuthen. Ya it was a fly ball that left the yard. how is that any different any any other fly ball hr? what gives?


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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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He made the choice to sign in a band box, deal with it.
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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Wind must have been blowing out or something. I don't get it.

Arrieta didnt, though. It was just their hot ass, dreamy young stud coach.

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Poor form by Jake to throw his infielders under the bus though. Sometimes shit happens . You want to fire them up with a ' We must be better " speech go ahead. When you nitpick certain plays in the game with " so and so has to make that play" you sound like a whiner. Leave that for the fans and people who post on message boards to do.

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Poor form by Jake to throw his infielders under the bus though. Sometimes shit happens . You want to fire them up with a ' We must be better " speech go ahead. When you nitpick certain plays in the game with " so and so has to make that play" you sound like a whiner. Leave that for the fans and people who post on message boards to do.


You can only expect so much "tact" from a drugged up Trump supporter.


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Poor form by Jake to throw his infielders under the bus though. Sometimes shit happens . You want to fire them up with a ' We must be better " speech go ahead. When you nitpick certain plays in the game with " so and so has to make that play" you sound like a whiner. Leave that for the fans and people who post on message boards to do.


You can only expect so much "tact" from a drugged up Trump supporter.


I didn't say anything too bad in this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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Didnt Jake get pissed at Montero for throwing him under the bus last year?

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Arrieta 2018
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He did but he did kinda make Montero look like the worst catcher in baseball history with like 7 stolen bases. I hate the shift bullshit too.

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