SHARK wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
They should waive the five-year rule to induct Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz together. It'd be a nice way to restore some goodwill and, more importantly, tourism money.
I think Glavine juiced, and I don't think Smoltz is a HOF'er.
Disagree on both. Tom Glavine & John Smoltz are HOFers.
Smoltz you can have a spirited argument over, and plenty of people would say that to even have the Cooperstown argument in the first place is to lose it, but Glavine won 300 games and anchored the freaking Atlanta Braves. He is in.
Smoltz is tough because he had the reliever phase, but let's try the b-r comparables and the Keltner List.
Career comps are Schilling, Kevin Brown, Bunning*, Tiant, Hershiser, Bob Welch, Jim Perry (not from
Card Sharks), Catfish*, Billy Pierce, Drysdale*. Three HOFers, Schilling borderline/pending. By year, I see Glavine at 31, Schilling at 35-36, Hershiser 37-39 and 41.
Was he ever regarded as the best player in baseball? Did anybody, while he was active, ever suggest that he was the best player in baseball?No. Best players in baseball are rarely pitchers, anyway.
Was he the best player on his team?hahahaha honestly now
Was he the best player in baseball at his position? Was he the best player in the league at his position?He wasn't even the best player on his team at his position (except his Cy Young year in '96 and when he had an absurd ERA as a closer in '03)
Did he have an impact on a number of pennant races?Absolutely.
Was he a good enough player that he could continue to play regularly after passing his prime?Absolutely.
Is he the very best player in baseball history who is not in the Hall of Fame?I would lean toward no.
Are most players who have comparable career statistics in the Hall of Fame?3/10 so far, maybe 5/10; who knows what tomorrow may bring.
Do the player's numbers meet Hall of Fame standards?Black Ink - 34 (48th), Average HOFer ≈ 40
Gray Ink - 199 (41st), Average HOFer ≈ 185
HOF Monitor - 167 (38th), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Is there any evidence to suggest that the player was significantly better or worse than is suggested by his statistics?Playing for the best top-to-bottom organization of the '90s didn't
hurt.
Is he the best player at his position who is eligible for the Hall of Fame but not in?Not counting the pending locks like Maddux, Glavine, and Unit, you could say so. Him or Schilling.
How many MVP-type seasons did he have? Did he ever win an MVP award? If not, how many times was he close?One Cy Young, surely in contention for several others
How many All-Star-type seasons did he have? How many All-Star games did he play in? Did most of the other players who played in this many go to the Hall of Fame?Eight-time All-Star.
If this man were the best player on his team, would it be likely that the team could win the pennant?No, but he's a pitcher.
What impact did the player have on baseball history? Was he responsible for any rule changes? Did he introduce any new equipment? Did he change the game in any way?Can't say I know the Smoltz Rule, but I guess there's something to be said for being an old guy who got TJS and came back as a fiery reliever.
Did the player uphold the standards of sportsmanship and character that the Hall of Fame, in its written guidelines, instructs us to consider?I'd say so.
It's extreeeemely borderline to me, but I still have to go yes because it's the Braves and John Smoltz.
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