I assume that anyone that's dumb/arragant/lazy enough to have been caught TWICE since they knew they would be tested, has been using since birth.

how would sammy sosa's career have gone minus the peds

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Well Sammy's career averages look like this...

162 Game Avg.

Games: 162
PA: 681
AB: 607
R: 102
Hits: 166
2B: 26
3B: 3
HR: 42
RBI: 115
SB: 16
BB: 64
SO: 159
AVG: .273
OBP: .344
SLG: .534
OPS: .878
OPS+: 128
TB: 324

Mutated numbers to say the least. Idk if I can think of a comparable player if I put a non steroid filter on those numbers. Take away 30% of that yearly average and who would Sammy be? Marlon Byrd?

Idk if he would have ever been able to learn the plate discipline needed when you can't just launch baseballs from your bat. What's most worrisome about Sammy is he could have been on the PEDs for like 10+ years with his outlying statistics. Every single year of major statistical output could have been attributed to an abuse of steroids. It's like a complete assault on my adolescent baseball memories.

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yea those numbers are sick, that is why manny could very well be just a guy , instead of a legend if he was clean..... bonds , he hit 73 hr when he was like 36 years old that is INSANE... look at manny in 93 ..he is thin like sosa was when he was coming up. it is too bad that selig let the the inmates run the asylum when he had his head up his ass or looked the other way, baseball was the one sport where numbers could be compared from generation to generation

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