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Starts on page 127. Still going through, but Clemens, Bonds, Giambi, Glenellen Hill, Denny Naegle, Benito Santiago, Brian Roberts are some of the names I've come across so far. Lost of cancelled checks in there.

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I'm not reading through all that crap. There will be a full and detailed list out soon enough.

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Todd Hundley's on there. Shocker.

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This is a good read. Clemens getting stuck in the ass because he can't do it himself. :lol:


dumbass :lol:

My 22 Astros jersey is going on the burn pile!

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Rondell White, Paul Lo Duca, Tejada, Mo Vaughn

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start at the end and scroll back...

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first question by the non-baseball fan in the office:

"why didn't they just pay cash?"

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Unless I missed a bunch of names, nobody completely surprised me. The list posted here is not accurate.

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Unless I missed a bunch of names, nobody completely surprised me. The list posted here is not accurate.


yeah, it seems like the deadspin list was a little reachy.

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Am I reading this right from the Clemens section....

do you take HGH as a shot through your belly button?? :shock:

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I wonder if Dan Patrick would have anything to say about all this....


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Well I've said before that I knew most of the names already because of my own sources, which are most definitely accurate though I can't give those sources out. Much like when I knew in training camp of 2000 that the Ravens would win the Superbowl, and I knew Randy Moss would return to form when he went to the Patriots--I knew all of this and perhaps some day they will harvest my brain after I do so that my extensive knowledge can be given to all--if I so choose.


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makes sense. i'm guessing that crap would collapse your veins like H. or Chemo.

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Not to make light here, but I have to pause each time they mention Don "Hooten" . Was it Burt Hooten or Don Sutton whose son committed suicide & had the steroid history?

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Do you think when a lot of these players reach their 40's/50's they're going to die from from weird shit like all the wrestlers have, or were the wrestlers taking different steroids or larger doses?


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Damn near the whole Yankees team was taking steroids.


You mean America's franchise/the one team full of 'grinders'/the clubhouse loaded with guys who play the game the right way with good fundamentals? :P

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I am shocked that John Rocker was listed in this report!


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Do you think when a lot of these players reach their 40's/50's they're going to die from from weird shit like all the wrestlers have, or were the wrestlers taking different steroids or larger doses?


Makes you really wonder about the Darryl Kile autopsy.

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I am shocked that John Rocker was listed in this report!


nothing like some steroids to get the racist tongue wagging...

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Vina was obvious too


Isn't he on Baseball Tonight? That should be interesting...

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Mark Prior does not appear anywhere in the actual Mitchell report. Same goes for Kerry Wood. And Sammy Sosa appears only once in a comment that he didn't respond to a letter.


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I'm glad George Mitchell is back at the mic.. the other guy was hard to listen to. This is "riveting" television.


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"McNamee injected Clemens approximately four times in the buttocks over
a several-week period with needles that Clemens provided. According to McNamee, from the time that McNamee injected Clemens with
Winstrol through the end of the 1998 season, Clemens’s performance showed remarkable improvement. During this period of improved performance, Clemens told McNamee that the
steroids “had a pretty good effect” on him."


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List so far from going through it...

Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Gregg Zaun
David Justice
F.P. Santangelo
Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn
Denny Neagle
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada
Jason Christiansen
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston, Jr.
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagné
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett, Jr.
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
Howie Clark
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Damn near the whole Yankees team was taking steroids.

At least Bernie Williams was clean.

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My favorite part of the report is found on page 280. MATT KARCHNER rats on the Cubs. It's bad enough he played one year for them, and the White Sox got Jon Garland. LOL...

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Information Provided by a Former Major League Player
Matt Karchner pitched for two teams in Major League Baseball between 1995 and 2000, the Chicago Cubs and the Chicago White Sox. Members of my investigative staff contacted him as part of our effort to interview former major league players.

Karchner said that during spring training in 1999, he observed two of his Chicago Cubs teammates inject themselves with steroids in an apartment that Karchner was sharing with them. Karchner declined to identify the players. He said that one of the players brought the steroids to the apartment but was afraid of needles and therefore asked the second player to administer the shot. The second player injected the first player with steroids in the buttocks and then injected himself.

Later that season, Karchner was offered steroids by certain of his Cubs teammates. Karchner would not disclose the names of players who offered him steroids, but he said that the conversations he had with them involved the general cost of steroids and discussions of “stacking” to build lean muscle necessary for pitchers. Karchner did not report either of these incidents to anyone at the time.


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List so far from going through it...

Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Gregg Zaun
David Justice
F.P. Santangelo
Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn
Denny Neagle
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada
Jason Christiansen
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston, Jr.
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagné
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett, Jr.
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
Howie Clark
Nook Logan


I don't know half these guys. This guy here is dead.... :shock:

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Sam in Hoffman wrote:
Mark Prior does not appear anywhere in the actual Mitchell report. Same goes for Kerry Wood. And Sammy Sosa appears only once in a comment that he didn't respond to a letter.


I know, that early report was bogus. Now I feel sorry for Wood and Prior. Besides the fact that they suck.


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jerry hairston, jr?!? CARM, WHAT HAPPENED???

that's defalco's guy!


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jerry hairston, jr?!? CARM, WHAT HAPPENED???

that's defalco's guy!

Wasn't Jerry Hairston the guy who had no idea why is name was in a previous report? Wasn't he also the guy who was going to get his lawyers and get to the bottom of it?

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Vina was obvious too


Isn't he on Baseball Tonight? That should be interesting...


Bob Ley just read the portion of the report regarding Vina. I was surprised that they did that considering how little they seemed to want to talk about Golic.


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