I don't know if this has ever been discussed here, but I think it needs to be hashed out.

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For a team, very much so.

For a pitcher, entirely irrelevant.

This concludes tonight's review.

Thank you for stopping by; good night.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Wins for a pitcher are the ultimate result of each game he pitched.

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Well said.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

As of late, wins for the Cub have been scarce. Sometimes, it's the starting pitching, in others it's been the bullpen. In any event, a loss is a loss and losses suck.

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We all have private ails. The troublemakers are they who need public cures for their private ails.- Eric Hoffer

And wrong.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

And this is entirely wrong.

As with most stats, wins for a pitcher are not the end all be all, but they do tell you something. Only imbeciles would completely ignore W-L for pitchers, especially starters.

You need to look no further than Chicago's MLB teams to see this.

You look at Quintana's record and you would think that he is not a very good pitcher. Then look at some of his other stats and you would change your stance a bit.

You look at Jake Arrietta's W-L record, and you would probably think he is having a great year. Then you delve into some of his other stats, especially over the last month, and "great" would be the furthest thing from your mind.

For the record, I think both guys are having really good seasons so far.

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How important are championships?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The Cubs most consistent pitcher is 7-6.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Sounds like he's consistently average.

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meaningless

Competing is what is important. Bites at the apple are a test of greatness.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Is Joe Flacco overrated?

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Attendance Championships are very important for some.

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