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Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:35 pm ]
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Please explain the decline of Bryce Harper...if it can happen to him it can happen to anyone :?:
Author:  Phil McCracken [ Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saberheads
Drunk all the time
Author:  Matches Malone [ Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:29 pm ]
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Much like Arrieta, it's probably as simple as last year was his career year.

Or, neither one can get a hold of Manny Alexander to make a run.
Author:  IMU [ Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:32 pm ]
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Career year. White Sox fans should know about their star hitter having a career year.

This year is right around...or slightly higher...than his career norms prior to last season. It makes sense that teams / pitchers would really study how Bryce got them last season and make changes. Now it is up to Bryce to make his adjustments...or not.

The great ones...like Anthony Rizzo...make adjustments. I think Bryce Harper will be better next season. Not 1.100 OPS better though.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:38 pm ]
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his swing is all fucked up. hitting like 2X the popups he normally does.
Author:  Phil McCracken [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:04 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
his swing is all fucked up.

That sounds so familiar....

Image
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:23 am ]
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IMU wrote:
Career year. White Sox fans should know about their star hitter having a career year.

This year is right around...or slightly higher...than his career norms prior to last season. It makes sense that teams / pitchers would really study how Bryce got them last season and make changes. Now it is up to Bryce to make his adjustments...or not.

The great ones...like Anthony Rizzo...make adjustments. I think Bryce Harper will be better next season. Not 1.100 OPS better though.


Run an analysis of guys who had career years at the age of 22
Author:  Gloopan Kuratz [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Saberheads
good dolphin wrote:
IMU wrote:
Career year. White Sox fans should know about their star hitter having a career year.

This year is right around...or slightly higher...than his career norms prior to last season. It makes sense that teams / pitchers would really study how Bryce got them last season and make changes. Now it is up to Bryce to make his adjustments...or not.

The great ones...like Anthony Rizzo...make adjustments. I think Bryce Harper will be better next season. Not 1.100 OPS better though.


Run an analysis of guys who had career years at the age of 22

Ron Kittle
Jerome Walton
Author:  Rod [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:40 am ]
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Al Kaline had his career year at 20.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:26 am ]
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Gordon Beckham
Author:  pittmike [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:12 am ]
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McCutcheon also having a down year without an explanation.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:24 am ]
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yeah IIRC didn't harper usually end up hitting like .260-.270 with ~20-25HR in his average season? and if he isn't technically "injury prone" he at least "isn't a stranger to injuries" right?

yeah indeed if you count last year's truly awesome season (.330/42/99 with a 1.103 OPS) he STILL averaged .289/24/62 in a 128 game season. if you take that season out and look at just his first 3 years it's an even more modest .272/18/50/10, so that would mean this year's stats (.233/20/57) are likely an improvement on the HR/RBI totals even if the BA has slumped after a bigtime start (cuz i wanna say he was one of if not the quickest guy to like ~10-15HR this year)

but then again you can look at his bio and see that he's still just under 24 years old (oct 16 1992) and if you figure that many/most hitters tend to peak around 27-30 (even if harper technically started his career earlier than the avg MLB hitter) then there's still hope for him yet... it's just that with these young natinals (him and especially strasburg) there was this ESPN/media-driven narrative where they were supposed to grow up and be the best hitter/pitcher in baseball and welp, suffice to say that hasn't happened yet.

but hey at least it's not as bad as being one of those people who thought puig was gonna be better than trout, eh? =D
Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:27 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Al Kaline had his career year at 20.


Still alive!

I'm just glad the speculation that Harper would be baseball's first $400 million or $500 million player has pretty much died.
Author:  Matches Malone [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:51 am ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Al Kaline had his career year at 20.


Still alive!

I'm just glad the speculation that Harper would be baseball's first $400 million or $500 million player has pretty much died.

I still maintain that either he, Stanton or Trout will be a Cub at some point in the next five years but Kris Bryant will not be.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:55 am ]
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I can't wait til Bryant tells the Cubs to piss off..."It's just business."
Author:  Brick [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:57 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
I can't wait til Bryant tells the Cubs to piss off..."It's just business."
Will the Cubs fans turn on Bryant like they have Tommy LaStella?
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Saberheads
Hatchetman wrote:
I can't wait til Bryant tells the Cubs to piss off..."It's just business."


I think he is happy to be a Cub but I also believe he (and his agent) have a long memory about the call up situation.

Hopefully, Barry Rozner will be on the radio when that chicken comes home to roost
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