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Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. :lol:

His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. :lol:

I'd really love to grab a beer with Paul Giamatti one time to see what his dad thought of the whole situation. His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did and Bart never really responded.

Pete Rose has ALWAYS been schivvy to me. I was just a child in his hey day but the haircut and the way he carried himself gave off a vibe even to child me.

Also, 12 years old starts to get pretty close to the pedo level if it isn't already, which leaves open the question of just how young he would go.

good dolphin wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. :lol:

There's no doubt in my mind he threw games.

good dolphin wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. :lol:

There's no doubt in my mind he threw games.

good dolphin wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. :lol:

There's no doubt in my mind he threw games.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. :lol:

There's no doubt in my mind he threw games.

I'm not confident he threw games, but it's easy to see how he could hurt his team even if betting them to win. (Maybe he burns out a pitcher to win today at the expense of tomorrow.)

How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

RFDC wrote:

How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. :lol:

There's no doubt in my mind he threw games.

I'm not confident he threw games, but it's easy to see how he could hurt his team even if betting them to win. (Maybe he burns out a pitcher to win today at the expense of tomorrow.)

How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

RFDC wrote:

How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

RFDC wrote:

How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo.

RFDC wrote:

How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo.

Should have married her like Jerry Lee Lewis?

pittmike wrote:

Should have married her like Jerry Lee Lewis?

Unrelated.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

RFDC wrote:

How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo.

How much did Maddon have on the Indians last year?

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

RFDC wrote:

How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo.

I thought injury cover-ups were part of it too. For the record I switched to his side when he nodded hello to me as he exited the Planet Hollywood Casino 2 weeks ago. I actually felt bad for him. He looked more like Bucky Dent clinging to fame than a baseball legend.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:40 am ]
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Nuke Ohio!! A sworn statement by an unidentified woman, contained in a motion filed Monday in John Dowd's defense against Pete Rose's defamation lawsuit, alleges that Rose had a sexual relationship with the woman for several years in the 1970s, beginning before she turned 16. In the majority of states, including Ohio -- where both the woman and Rose lived at the time -- the age of legal consent is 16, so her allegation amounts to statutory rape. Rose is Major League Baseball's all-time hits leader who in 1989 was banned from the game for life after an investigation led by Dowd, then MLB's special counsel, concluded Rose had bet on baseball when he was the manager of the Cincinnati Reds. Rose acknowledged he had a sexual relationship with the woman in court documents made public Monday, but he said his information and belief was that it started when she was 16. He was 34, married and the father of two children in 1975, when he says he began having sex with the woman, referred to in the filing as "Jane Doe." Rose said he does not recall how long the relationship lasted. The woman's account does not raise the prospect of a criminal charge for Rose, as it is well past Ohio's statute of limitations. She said they also had sex outside of Ohio when she was 16 or younger, but didn't specify the states, and Rose said their sexual relationship was confined to Ohio. In some states, such as Florida, the legal age of consent is 18. Rose sued Dowd for defamation a year ago, in U.S. District Court in Eastern Pennsylvania, because Dowd claimed in a 2015 radio interview that Rose had underage girls delivered to him at spring training and committed statutory rape. In the interview, with a station in West Chester, Pennsylvania, Dowd said, "Michael Bertolini told us, you know, he not only ran bets, but ran young girls down at spring training, ages 12 to 14. Isn't that lovely? So that's statutory rape every time you do that." In Rose's complaint, he denied Dowd's allegation, calling it "entirely false in every respect." Bertolini was a memorabilia dealer whose taped conversations and other information were cited in the 1989 Dowd reportas evidence of Rose's betting. When NJ.com published Dowd's remarks three weeks after the broadcast, Bertolini's attorney issued a statement saying his client "categorically denies" them. Dowd's motion asks the court to compel Rose to answer questions such as whether he had sex with other high school girls. Rose's attorneys objected to several defense questions, in part due to what they said is his right to privacy. Monday's filing by Dowd's attorneys also notes two journalists' references to Rose's relationships with young women -- in "Collision at Home Plate: The Lives of Pete Rose and Bart Giamatti" in 1991 by James Reston Jr., and in 2000 by USA Today's Jill Lieber Steeg in an ESPN SportsCentury documentary. Contacted by Outside the Lines on Monday, Ray Genco, one of Rose's attorneys, said in an email: "John Dowd purposely made a defamatory statement that damaged Pete -- serial pedophilia consisting of the statutory rape of 12- to 14-year-olds during spring training. It is also false. And Judge Tucker just ruled that it constitutes defamation per se. "Dowd can't defend his own actions here -- so he is distracting. It's just Dowd attacking Pete instead of defending his own inexplicable accusations on the radio the day before Pete was to be honored in Cincinnati at the All-Star Game. His litigation strategy is to further drag Pete's name through the mud. It's a witch hunt -- and won't be a successful litigation strategy." David Tobin, an attorney for Dowd, told Outside the Lines on Monday, "We'll let the filing speak for itself." Dowd asked the court to dismiss Rose's lawsuit last August, and two weeks ago Judge Petrese B. Tucker dismissed one of three counts (tortious interference) and said another count (defamation) was insufficiently pleaded, but Rose can amend the complaint on that count. His attorneys characterized the ruling as a victory. In December 2015, MLB commissioner Rob Manfred denied Rose's petition for reinstatement and a year later the National Baseball Hall of Fame declined a request from Rose to change its rule that anyone banned from the game is ineligible for the Hall. Rose, 76, is a Fox Sports baseball commentator and regularly signs items at a memorabilia store adjacent to a casino in his adopted hometown of Las Vegas. He was in Cooperstown, New York, this past weekend, as he usually is at Hall of Fame induction time, signing autographs at a shop down the street from the Hall. Dowd, also 76, is a former federal prosecutor and a longtime Washington attorney who is now leading President Donald Trump's legal defense team in the Russia probe. The Reds inducted Rose into their Hall of Fame and retired his No. 14 last year, and last month they dedicated a statue of him outside Great American Ball Park. On Aug. 12, three miles from the federal courthouse where his suit against Dowd is being contested, Rose is to be inducted into the Philadelphia Phillies' Wall of Fame.

Author:	Rod [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:59 am ]
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Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:01 am ]
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She knew first hand there was something about ban Aqua Velva man

Author:	Hockey Gay [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:05 am ]
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Wonder if he went on any double dates with Ted Nugent back then

Author:	pittmike [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:07 am ]
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Should have married her like Jerry Lee Lewis?

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Author:	good dolphin [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:52 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. I'd really love to grab a beer with Paul Giamatti one time to see what his dad thought of the whole situation. His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did and Bart never really responded. Pete Rose has ALWAYS been schivvy to me. I was just a child in his hey day but the haircut and the way he carried himself gave off a vibe even to child me. Also, 12 years old starts to get pretty close to the pedo level if it isn't already, which leaves open the question of just how young he would go.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:57 am ]
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good dolphin wrote: His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did Not really. He compromised the trust that the games weren't rigged. If you want to talk excessive, prior commissioners banned players for life just for being casino greeters. They were reinstated, of course, but baseball has been clear about what its one rule above all other rules is.

Author:	Rod [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:57 am ]
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good dolphin wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. I'd really love to grab a beer with Paul Giamatti one time to see what his dad thought of the whole situation. His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did and Bart never really responded. Pete Rose has ALWAYS been schivvy to me. I was just a child in his hey day but the haircut and the way he carried himself gave off a vibe even to child me. Also, 12 years old starts to get pretty close to the pedo level if it isn't already, which leaves open the question of just how young he would go. There's no doubt in my mind he threw games.

Author:	good dolphin [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:06 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: good dolphin wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. I'd really love to grab a beer with Paul Giamatti one time to see what his dad thought of the whole situation. His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did and Bart never really responded. Pete Rose has ALWAYS been schivvy to me. I was just a child in his hey day but the haircut and the way he carried himself gave off a vibe even to child me. Also, 12 years old starts to get pretty close to the pedo level if it isn't already, which leaves open the question of just how young he would go. There's no doubt in my mind he threw games. I have no doubt he bet on the outcome of games in which he was a participant as a coach/player. If that is true then, giving him the greatest benefit of the doubt, his desire to win those games was conflicted. Giving him no benefit of the doubt he purposely lost games. The bigger question is whether he conspired to lose games. Going downhill, were players involved. Going uphill, did he do it because he was so in debt that he was compromised on a regular basis.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:29 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: good dolphin wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. I'd really love to grab a beer with Paul Giamatti one time to see what his dad thought of the whole situation. His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did and Bart never really responded. Pete Rose has ALWAYS been schivvy to me. I was just a child in his hey day but the haircut and the way he carried himself gave off a vibe even to child me. Also, 12 years old starts to get pretty close to the pedo level if it isn't already, which leaves open the question of just how young he would go. There's no doubt in my mind he threw games. So Manager's matter?

Author:	Jaw Breaker [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:09 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: good dolphin wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. I'd really love to grab a beer with Paul Giamatti one time to see what his dad thought of the whole situation. His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did and Bart never really responded. Pete Rose has ALWAYS been schivvy to me. I was just a child in his hey day but the haircut and the way he carried himself gave off a vibe even to child me. Also, 12 years old starts to get pretty close to the pedo level if it isn't already, which leaves open the question of just how young he would go. There's no doubt in my mind he threw games. I'm not confident he threw games, but it's easy to see how he could hurt his team even if betting them to win. (Maybe he burns out a pitcher to win today at the expense of tomorrow.)

Author:	RFDC [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:18 pm ]
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How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

Author:	Drunk Squirrel [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:21 pm ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: good dolphin wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. I'd really love to grab a beer with Paul Giamatti one time to see what his dad thought of the whole situation. His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did and Bart never really responded. Pete Rose has ALWAYS been schivvy to me. I was just a child in his hey day but the haircut and the way he carried himself gave off a vibe even to child me. Also, 12 years old starts to get pretty close to the pedo level if it isn't already, which leaves open the question of just how young he would go. There's no doubt in my mind he threw games. I'm not confident he threw games, but it's easy to see how he could hurt his team even if betting them to win. (Maybe he burns out a pitcher to win today at the expense of tomorrow.) Absolutely could burn a pen up or push a starter to far. I'd say it's very unlikely that a bet wouldn't have an impact on it. To me is such an insufferable asshat that I can't take a damn thing he says as truth. Hated him as a player in his latter years as well. Didn't know him when he was in his prime as I was too much of a youth.

Author:	Rod [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:24 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome. With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo.

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Author:	badrogue17 [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:25 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome. With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo. Shit. I hope he was at least of legal age .

Author:	Rod [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:26 pm ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: good dolphin wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Pete drew the line only when it came to betting against his own teams. I'd really love to grab a beer with Paul Giamatti one time to see what his dad thought of the whole situation. His father's ban of Rose for life always seemed excessive for only doing what Rose claims he did and Bart never really responded. Pete Rose has ALWAYS been schivvy to me. I was just a child in his hey day but the haircut and the way he carried himself gave off a vibe even to child me. Also, 12 years old starts to get pretty close to the pedo level if it isn't already, which leaves open the question of just how young he would go. There's no doubt in my mind he threw games. I'm not confident he threw games, but it's easy to see how he could hurt his team even if betting them to win. (Maybe he burns out a pitcher to win today at the expense of tomorrow.) Well, if you're stuck a bunch of money, it's a lot easier to lose on purpose than to win.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:31 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:56 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote: RFDC wrote: How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome. Remember this guy from the 86 series. Every time he was out there it looked like we was scared shitless.

Author:	Brick [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:44 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome. With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo. How much did Maddon have on the Indians last year?

Author:	ToxicMasculinity [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:53 pm ]
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Is this going to be the next Penny State for Bernstein?

Author:	Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:03 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome. With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo. I thought injury cover-ups were part of it too. For the record I switched to his side when he nodded hello to me as he exited the Planet Hollywood Casino 2 weeks ago. I actually felt bad for him. He looked more like Bucky Dent clinging to fame than a baseball legend.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:13 pm ]
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pittmike wrote: Should have married her like Jerry Lee Lewis? Unrelated.

Author:	jimmypasta [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:12 am ]
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He's having underage girls delivered to him and his teammates and manager say nothing?

Author:	pittmike [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:24 am ]
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Don Tiny wrote: pittmike wrote: Should have married her like Jerry Lee Lewis? Unrelated. Nice.

Author:	BigW72 [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:03 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome. With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo. How much did Maddon have on the Indians last year? Hahahaha!

Author:	Rod [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:23 am ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: How does a manager throw games? I get they can influence games, but ultimately the players determine the outcome. With the way he uses his players, particularly pitchers. I'm pretty sure he did some weird stuff with Jose Rijo. I thought injury cover-ups were part of it too. For the record I switched to his side when he nodded hello to me as he exited the Planet Hollywood Casino 2 weeks ago. I actually felt bad for him. He looked more like Bucky Dent clinging to fame than a baseball legend. Yeah, he sat next to me in the Bellagio racebook one afternoon with his HUGE-titted Asian girlfriend and I felt the same way.