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Jules' buddy from the front office could blow the doors of this thing. If he is already going to be SJWballed from ever working in baseball again then he should do it.

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Time for some lifetime bans.

Strip the title.

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Mid-90's, watching some college football game being announced by Brent Musburger. They cut away to a quick highlight/update package, including a Big East game btw the U and Temple. In the update Miami scored on a flea-flicker from mid-field to go up by however many TD's. Cut back to Musburger's game and Brent's incredulous: "A flea-flicker against Temple?? Who calls a flea-flicker play to score against Temple?!"

Who needs to steal signs to hit off Danny Farquhar? Reason enough to strip titles.

This is a very interesting story.

My 2 immediate reactions were that no real punishments will be handed down, and two I’m sure every team does something similar.

Baseball will not indict itself on this, not to the full extent of what is occurring anyways

I can see the league taking the 29th pick away from them and act like it's a big deal.

Chris Correa sees nothing inappropriate about this.

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He sees nothing surprising about this. Remember, his excuse for hacking the Astros was they hacked the Cardinals first.

I don't get how that Atlanta GM got banned for life, but this seems like it is going to be a slap on the wrist.

Don’t have a problem with it . Tough shit . If you knew or suspected they were doing this , change your fucking signs . Oh and Mr Sanctity of the game Fiers?

Fiers a nine year veteran was non- tendered after the 2017 season when the Astros won the World Series


Those tears a little salty eh Mike ?

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I agree if they happen to pick up signs because the catcher doesn't hide them well enough or there's a guy on 2nd, but using a camera to get signs and then signal them to the hitter is a bit different.

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I thought the cool part was the pitcher picked up that they had the "fucking" signs.

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This isn't really a new story. Fiers has been saying this for a while now.

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What does it matter ? Change your signs if you think they’re stealing them .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Yeah ever since he was non tendered by the Astros and now cares about the young pitchers coming up.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I think it was butthurt that he was left off the playoff roster.

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Change signs more..problem solved.

Like how the Astros excuse to MLB when confronted with the evidence of using cameras to steal signs was the sandbox classic: we only started using cameras to steal signs cuz other teams did it to us first.

The "great" Bruce Levine claims all teams do it....nothing new here. It's a rare thing, but I do think Bruce is correct.

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Don't even need to actually be stealing signs. Just have a guy in the dugout whistling/banging/whatever before random pitches. Fuck with the other team's pitcher's head.

Makes 2005 even more impressive.

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...oh, you said astros. nevermind

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Yeah, I also think some batters are hesitant to act on the info, as they risk looking foolish if the pitch is different than what they were told.

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I remember back in 89 the Giants saying something about they had a book on Maddux’s pitching patterns , maybe prior to the playoffs that year for the Cubs? And if I remember correctly Maddux got beat around pretty good that series. Maybe they did have one maybe they didn’t but it certainly seems to be a good way to get in someone’s head to say that you do

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Not exactly.


You propose changing signs for each batter? Or within an at bat?

The methods they were using were in real time ya know..


And you shouldn’t have to change signs if no one is on base. That’s a bit much

I'm guessing you mean aside from the fact that what they did is clearly disallowed in the rulebook.

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Pitchers have enough to worry about without this cowardly bullshit. Play the game like a man.