Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
This isn't really a new story. Fiers has been saying this for a while now.
Yeah ever since he was non tendered by the Astros and now cares about the young pitchers coming up.
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:58 pm ] |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:08 pm ] |
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Jules' buddy from the front office could blow the doors of this thing. If he is already going to be SJWballed from ever working in baseball again then he should do it. |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:09 pm ] |
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Time for some lifetime bans. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:16 pm ] |
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Strip the title. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:21 pm ] |
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*str*s |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:23 pm ] |
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Mid-90's, watching some college football game being announced by Brent Musburger. They cut away to a quick highlight/update package, including a Big East game btw the U and Temple. In the update Miami scored on a flea-flicker from mid-field to go up by however many TD's. Cut back to Musburger's game and Brent's incredulous: "A flea-flicker against Temple?? Who calls a flea-flicker play to score against Temple?!" |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Who needs to steal signs to hit off Danny Farquhar? Reason enough to strip titles. |
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| Author: | Crick Ramp [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
This is a very interesting story. My 2 immediate reactions were that no real punishments will be handed down, and two I’m sure every team does something similar. Baseball will not indict itself on this, not to the full extent of what is occurring anyways |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
I can see the league taking the 29th pick away from them and act like it's a big deal. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:44 pm ] |
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Chris Correa sees nothing inappropriate about this. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Don Tiny wrote: Chris Correa sees nothing inappropriate about this. He sees nothing surprising about this. Remember, his excuse for hacking the Astros was they hacked the Cardinals first. |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
I don't get how that Atlanta GM got banned for life, but this seems like it is going to be a slap on the wrist. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Don’t have a problem with it . Tough shit . If you knew or suspected they were doing this , change your fucking signs . Oh and Mr Sanctity of the game Fiers? Fiers a nine year veteran was non- tendered after the 2017 season when the Astros won the World Series Those tears a little salty eh Mike ? |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
badrogue17 wrote: Don’t have a problem with it . Tough shit . If you knew or suspected they were doing this , change your fucking signs . Oh and Mr Sanctity of the game Fiers? Fiers a nine year veteran was non- tendered after the 2017 season when the Astros won the World Series Those tears a little salty eh Mike ? I agree if they happen to pick up signs because the catcher doesn't hide them well enough or there's a guy on 2nd, but using a camera to get signs and then signal them to the hitter is a bit different. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:34 am ] |
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I thought the cool part was the pitcher picked up that they had the "fucking" signs. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
This isn't really a new story. Fiers has been saying this for a while now. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Terry's Peeps wrote: badrogue17 wrote: Don’t have a problem with it . Tough shit . If you knew or suspected they were doing this , change your fucking signs . Oh and Mr Sanctity of the game Fiers? Fiers a nine year veteran was non- tendered after the 2017 season when the Astros won the World Series Those tears a little salty eh Mike ? I agree if they happen to pick up signs because the catcher doesn't hide them well enough or there's a guy on 2nd, but using a camera to get signs and then signal them to the hitter is a bit different. What does it matter ? Change your signs if you think they’re stealing them . |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: This isn't really a new story. Fiers has been saying this for a while now. Yeah ever since he was non tendered by the Astros and now cares about the young pitchers coming up.
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
badrogue17 wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: This isn't really a new story. Fiers has been saying this for a while now. Yeah ever since he was non tendered by the Astros and now cares about the young pitchers coming up.I think it was butthurt that he was left off the playoff roster. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Change signs more..problem solved. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Like how the Astros excuse to MLB when confronted with the evidence of using cameras to steal signs was the sandbox classic: we only started using cameras to steal signs cuz other teams did it to us first. |
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| Author: | BigW72 [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
The "great" Bruce Levine claims all teams do it....nothing new here. It's a rare thing, but I do think Bruce is correct. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Don't even need to actually be stealing signs. Just have a guy in the dugout whistling/banging/whatever before random pitches. Fuck with the other team's pitcher's head. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Makes 2005 even more impressive. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
1. Packers 2. Lance Armstrong 3. Sammy Sosa ...oh, you said astros. nevermind |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:13 pm ] |
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Hussra wrote: Don't even need to actually be stealing signs. Just have a guy in the dugout whistling/banging/whatever before random pitches. Fuck with the other team's pitcher's head. Yeah, I also think some batters are hesitant to act on the info, as they risk looking foolish if the pitch is different than what they were told. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:53 pm ] |
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Jaw Breaker wrote: Hussra wrote: Don't even need to actually be stealing signs. Just have a guy in the dugout whistling/banging/whatever before random pitches. Fuck with the other team's pitcher's head. Yeah, I also think some batters are hesitant to act on the info, as they risk looking foolish if the pitch is different than what they were told. I remember back in 89 the Giants saying something about they had a book on Maddux’s pitching patterns , maybe prior to the playoffs that year for the Cubs? And if I remember correctly Maddux got beat around pretty good that series. Maybe they did have one maybe they didn’t but it certainly seems to be a good way to get in someone’s head to say that you do |
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| Author: | Crick Ramp [ Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Caller Bob wrote: Change signs more..problem solved. Not exactly. You propose changing signs for each batter? Or within an at bat? The methods they were using were in real time ya know.. And you shouldn’t have to change signs if no one is on base. That’s a bit much |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
badrogue17 wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: badrogue17 wrote: Don’t have a problem with it . Tough shit . If you knew or suspected they were doing this , change your fucking signs . Oh and Mr Sanctity of the game Fiers? Fiers a nine year veteran was non- tendered after the 2017 season when the Astros won the World Series Those tears a little salty eh Mike ? I agree if they happen to pick up signs because the catcher doesn't hide them well enough or there's a guy on 2nd, but using a camera to get signs and then signal them to the hitter is a bit different. What does it matter ? Change your signs if you think they’re stealing them . I'm guessing you mean aside from the fact that what they did is clearly disallowed in the rulebook. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cheating Astros |
Pitchers have enough to worry about without this cowardly bullshit. Play the game like a man. |
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