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Author:  conns7901 [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
That would have to be some kind of record .230/.302/.454. Despite the defensive metrics.
Author:  312player [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
It's a 2 man race in the AL with 10 days to go..

Crowenworth or Lewis
Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
Who cares about ROY for Lou Bob. The bigger questions are will he continue to struggle in the playoffs? Has the league figured him out? Not much time for him to make adjustments in this shortened season.
Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
312player wrote:
It's a 2 man race in the AL with 10 days to go..

Crowenworth or Lewis

Cronenworth is a Padre. He used to be in the Rays organization but got included in the Tommy Pham deal because he was blocked in Tampa.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
"They" gave it to a Cub in 1962 with a .260/ .290/ .346 slashline, to go along with a league-leading 129 strikeouts. So there is at least some precedent in doing so with strong defensive metrics.
Author:  tommy [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
I sure as hell know who the MVP is.
Author:  312player [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
312player wrote:
It's a 2 man race in the AL with 10 days to go..

Crowenworth or Lewis

Cronenworth is a Padre. He used to be in the Rays organization but got included in the Tommy Pham deal because he was blocked in Tampa.



Didn't realize he left Tampa.. Sounded like he was a can't miss prospect.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
So was Bryant :lol:
Author:  312player [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
Frank Coztansa wrote:
So was Bryant :lol:


Bryant delivered early, Roy and MVP with a ring in under 3 seasons.. He's just soft as shit and his swing is way too long.
Author:  Juiced [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:29 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
So was Bryant :lol:


Bryant delivered early, Roy and MVP with a ring in under 3 seasons.. He's just soft as shit and his swing is way too long.


I blame his wife. He was fine until he got married.
Author:  JustAGayGuy [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:31 pm ]
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Juiced wrote:
312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
So was Bryant :lol:


Bryant delivered early, Roy and MVP with a ring in under 3 seasons.. He's just soft as shit and his swing is way too long.


I blame his wife. He was fine until he got married.

Women... amirite?
Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:35 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
312player wrote:
It's a 2 man race in the AL with 10 days to go..

Crowenworth or Lewis

Cronenworth is a Padre. He used to be in the Rays organization but got included in the Tommy Pham deal because he was blocked in Tampa.



Didn't realize he left Tampa.. Sounded like he was a can't miss prospect.

I saw him play at Durham. Great hitter but his defense wasn't good enough to stick at short in the big leagues. He has a chance to become a Zobrist like guy who plays primarily 2B but can also play LF/RF/1B.

The other guy to watch from that team was Mike Brosseau, who got promoted to Tampa late last year. More of a platoon power guy, he and Jake split SS in Durham but Brosseau profiles more as a traditional utility 5th IF.
Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
Juiced wrote:
312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
So was Bryant :lol:


Bryant delivered early, Roy and MVP with a ring in under 3 seasons.. He's just soft as shit and his swing is way too long.


I blame his wife. He was fine until he got married.

I blame getting hit in the head. Look what it did to Heyward. If it even slightly affects your vision and your ability to pick up spin, that could be enough to fuck your career.
Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Juiced wrote:
312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
So was Bryant :lol:


Bryant delivered early, Roy and MVP with a ring in under 3 seasons.. He's just soft as shit and his swing is way too long.


I blame his wife. He was fine until he got married.

I blame getting hit in the head. Look what it did to Heyward. If it even slightly affects your vision and your ability to pick up spin, that could be enough to fuck your career.


brandon belt...perfect example...after getting dinged on his head he has never been the same player before the incident.
Author:  Juiced [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:39 pm ]
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Juiced wrote:
312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
So was Bryant :lol:


Bryant delivered early, Roy and MVP with a ring in under 3 seasons.. He's just soft as shit and his swing is way too long.


I blame his wife. He was fine until he got married.

I blame getting hit in the head. Look what it did to Heyward. If it even slightly affects your vision and your ability to pick up spin, that could be enough to fuck your career.


Yes, I have said this multiple times in the Cubs threads. He was never the same after he got hit. Sosa, Dawson they all lost something after they got hit.
Author:  JustAGayGuy [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
Wasn't the beginning of the end for Sosa getting hit in the coconut?
Author:  Juiced [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
HawaiiYou wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Juiced wrote:
312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
So was Bryant :lol:


Bryant delivered early, Roy and MVP with a ring in under 3 seasons.. He's just soft as shit and his swing is way too long.


I blame his wife. He was fine until he got married.

I blame getting hit in the head. Look what it did to Heyward. If it even slightly affects your vision and your ability to pick up spin, that could be enough to fuck your career.


brandon belt...perfect example...after getting dinged on his head he has never been the same player before the incident.


He got.... belted

Image
Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
Juiced wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Juiced wrote:
312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
So was Bryant :lol:


Bryant delivered early, Roy and MVP with a ring in under 3 seasons.. He's just soft as shit and his swing is way too long.


I blame his wife. He was fine until he got married.

I blame getting hit in the head. Look what it did to Heyward. If it even slightly affects your vision and your ability to pick up spin, that could be enough to fuck your career.


Yes, I have said this multiple times in the Cubs threads. He was never the same after he got hit. Sosa, Dawson they all lost something after they got hit.


dont forget he hurt his little finger in 2017 sliding into 3rd at balitmore. instead of putting him on the dl they let him play where he had to change his swing to account for his injury to his hand.
Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:42 pm ]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4U0juHSwMo
Author:  Hawg Ass [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:42 pm ]
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JustAGayGuy wrote:
Juiced wrote:
312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
So was Bryant :lol:


Bryant delivered early, Roy and MVP with a ring in under 3 seasons.. He's just soft as shit and his swing is way too long.


I blame his wife. He was fine until he got married.

Women... amirite?

Exactly, imagine how good our Guy Rodgers would have been if he had stayed with Kevin.
Author:  One Post [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:36 pm ]
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tommy wrote:
I sure as hell know who the MVP is.



Yeah Shane Bieber with almost 1/3 of the total Clev. win total himself. Crazy low ERA, K’s off the chart.

I thought I was the only one to see how obvious a call it would be to give him the MVP.
Author:  Nardi [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:45 pm ]
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One Post wrote:
tommy wrote:
I sure as hell know who the MVP is.



Yeah Shane Bieber with almost 1/3 of the total Clev. win total himself. Crazy low ERA, K’s off the chart.

I thought I was the only one to see how obvious a call it would be to give him the MVP.

July math?
Author:  spanky [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:06 pm ]
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tommy wrote:
I sure as hell know who the MVP is.

I do too.
Author:  City of Fools [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
there should be an analysis of guys who were hit in the head with a baseball pre and post hit. This is a real thing.

Heyward still pulls off the ball. He's just not the same guy anymore. Sosa wasn't either, and he was clearly still juicing, in my opinion. This article disagrees with me though:

https://tht.fangraphs.com/the-three-dec ... ammy-sosa/

You can visibly see a guy who pulls off the ball, doesn't stay on it.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:26 am ]
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No.

and he isn't playing great defense right now, either
Author:  Nardi [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
good dolphin wrote:
No.

and he isn't playing great defense right now, either


Rookies hitting the wall after 40 games isn't new, not having another 120 games to work it out, is.
Author:  Rod [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:23 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
312player wrote:
It's a 2 man race in the AL with 10 days to go..

Crowenworth or Lewis

Cronenworth is a Padre. He used to be in the Rays organization but got included in the Tommy Pham deal because he was blocked in Tampa.



Didn't realize he left Tampa.. Sounded like he was a can't miss prospect.


:lol: Then how the hell did you know he was a ROY candidate?
Author:  Regular Reader [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:38 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
312player wrote:
It's a 2 man race in the AL with 10 days to go..

Crowenworth or Lewis

Cronenworth is a Padre. He used to be in the Rays organization but got included in the Tommy Pham deal because he was blocked in Tampa.



Didn't realize he left Tampa.. Sounded like he was a can't miss prospect.


:lol: Then how the hell did you know he was a ROY candidate?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
Regular Reader wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
312player wrote:
It's a 2 man race in the AL with 10 days to go..

Crowenworth or Lewis

Cronenworth is a Padre. He used to be in the Rays organization but got included in the Tommy Pham deal because he was blocked in Tampa.



Didn't realize he left Tampa.. Sounded like he was a can't miss prospect.


:lol: Then how the hell did you know he was a ROY candidate?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  312player [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would they really give the ROY to a .230 hitter?
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
312player wrote:
It's a 2 man race in the AL with 10 days to go..

Crowenworth or Lewis

Cronenworth is a Padre. He used to be in the Rays organization but got included in the Tommy Pham deal because he was blocked in Tampa.



Didn't realize he left Tampa.. Sounded like he was a can't miss prospect.


:lol: Then how the hell did you know he was a ROY candidate?



Satelite radio.. They were just talking about roy candidates.
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