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This is worse than a Wikipedia wormhole.

Was looking to see if a pitcher has ever been intentionally walked in a post-season game. In the entire history of major league baseball it has only happened once.

Game 4 of the 1932 World Series between the Yankees and Cubs.

Top of the seventh inning, Yankees batting. Game tied at 5. Runners on second and third. Red Ruffing pinch hits for Wilcy Moore. Jakie May intentionally walks Ruffing. Myril Hoag then pinch runs for Ruffing.

I dunno. Seems weird.

PS. They don't make baseball names like they used to. Solid baseball names back then.

SpiralStairs wrote:

Not that weird. In 1932, Ruffing hit .306 with 3hrs in 124ABs.

Here's another anomaly...in 2008 CC Sabathia led both the AL and the NL in shutouts.

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Here's another anomaly...in 2008 CC Sabathia led both the AL and the NL in shutouts.

That stretch with MIL was epic. Like Big Unit with Houston.

This one's fairly easy, but when Andy Hawkins threw a (then) no hitter and lost 4-0 to the Sox in1990 was funny.

Regular Reader wrote:

This one's fairly easy, but when Andy Hawkins threw a (then) no hitter and lost 4-0 to the Sox in1990 was funny.

That's like a Bears game from 2019.

veganfan21 wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

This one's fairly easy, but when Andy Hawkins threw a (then) no hitter and lost 4-0 to the Sox in1990 was funny.

That's like a Bears game from 2019.

Or a Failcons game since their last Super Bowl appearance.

Crick Ramp wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Here's another anomaly...in 2008 CC Sabathia led both the AL and the NL in shutouts.

That stretch with MIL was epic. Like Big Unit with Houston.

Or Sutcliffe in 84.

FrankDrebin wrote:

SpiralStairs wrote:

Not that weird. In 1932, Ruffing hit .306 with 3hrs in 124ABs.

But why have a pitcher pinch hit for another pitcher if you were going to pinch run for him anyways?

But yeah, 16-1 is pretty remarkable

Crick Ramp wrote:

But yeah, 16-1 is pretty remarkable

Isn't a pitcher's W/L record meaningless?

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Crick Ramp wrote:

But yeah, 16-1 is pretty remarkable

Isn't a pitcher's W/L record meaningless?

I don’t think it’s meaningless.

Crick Ramp wrote:

But yeah, 16-1 is pretty remarkable

Isn't a pitcher's W/L record meaningless?

Author:	SpiralStairs [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:11 pm ]
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This is worse than a Wikipedia wormhole. Was looking to see if a pitcher has ever been intentionally walked in a post-season game. In the entire history of major league baseball it has only happened once. Game 4 of the 1932 World Series between the Yankees and Cubs. Top of the seventh inning, Yankees batting. Game tied at 5. Runners on second and third. Red Ruffing pinch hits for Wilcy Moore. Jakie May intentionally walks Ruffing. Myril Hoag then pinch runs for Ruffing. I dunno. Seems weird. PS. They don't make baseball names like they used to. Solid baseball names back then.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:14 pm ]
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Cardinals bench guy Skip Schumaker was maybe the last of the great baseball names. How I yearn for a Louisianan relief pitcher named Gumbo. "Motions to the pen and they're gonna go with Gumbo LeRoux."

Author:	Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:57 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote: This is worse than a Wikipedia wormhole. Was looking to see if a pitcher has ever been intentionally walked in a post-season game. In the entire history of major league baseball it has only happened once. Game 4 of the 1932 World Series between the Yankees and Cubs. Top of the seventh inning, Yankees batting. Game tied at 5. Runners on second and third. Red Ruffing pinch hits for Wilcy Moore. Jakie May intentionally walks Ruffing. Myril Hoag then pinch runs for Ruffing. I dunno. Seems weird. PS. They don't make baseball names like they used to. Solid baseball names back then. Interesting...You'd think Ruth would've been intentionally walked while pitching a game back in the day. Another oddity is that Eddie Murray (while a member of the LAD) actually had the highest batting average in baseball in 1990 but didn't win the batting title due to a late season trade of Willie McGee to the A's.

Author:	FrankDrebin [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:05 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote: This is worse than a Wikipedia wormhole. Was looking to see if a pitcher has ever been intentionally walked in a post-season game. In the entire history of major league baseball it has only happened once. Game 4 of the 1932 World Series between the Yankees and Cubs. Top of the seventh inning, Yankees batting. Game tied at 5. Runners on second and third. Red Ruffing pinch hits for Wilcy Moore. Jakie May intentionally walks Ruffing. Myril Hoag then pinch runs for Ruffing. I dunno. Seems weird. PS. They don't make baseball names like they used to. Solid baseball names back then. Not that weird. In 1932, Ruffing hit .306 with 3hrs in 124ABs.

Author:	Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:58 pm ]
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Here's another anomaly...in 2008 CC Sabathia led both the AL and the NL in shutouts.

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Author:	HawaiiYou [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:02 pm ]
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my son has this game out of the ballpark. its like a videogame but it's not. its all a text based type of game and u sort of watch the game instead of play it. you are the GM and can manage everything. you can also start with any baseball season going back to 1902 or something. they have all the classic ballparks too. u can manage games too . you only have control over when to swing, what to pitch and managing offense and defense. it's not like u have to swing or catch the ball like in a videogame. i started getting into it and really digging it.

Author:	SpiralStairs [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:54 pm ]
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FrankDrebin wrote: SpiralStairs wrote: This is worse than a Wikipedia wormhole. Was looking to see if a pitcher has ever been intentionally walked in a post-season game. In the entire history of major league baseball it has only happened once. Game 4 of the 1932 World Series between the Yankees and Cubs. Top of the seventh inning, Yankees batting. Game tied at 5. Runners on second and third. Red Ruffing pinch hits for Wilcy Moore. Jakie May intentionally walks Ruffing. Myril Hoag then pinch runs for Ruffing. I dunno. Seems weird. PS. They don't make baseball names like they used to. Solid baseball names back then. Not that weird. In 1932, Ruffing hit .306 with 3hrs in 124ABs. But why have a pitcher pinch hit for another pitcher if you were going to pinch run for him anyways?

Author:	denisdman [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:02 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Here's another anomaly...in 2008 CC Sabathia led both the AL and the NL in shutouts. I was at the game in Milwaukee where Mark Bellhorn homered from each side of the plate....in the same inning. We were playing a numbers game, and the guy who had him got $35 for each homer, $5 from each other player per homer. https://theathletic.com/18300/2016/08/2 ... me-inning/

Author:	Regular Reader [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:09 pm ]
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This one's fairly easy, but when Andy Hawkins threw a (then) no hitter and lost 4-0 to the Sox in1990 was funny.

Author:	Crick Ramp [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:43 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Here's another anomaly...in 2008 CC Sabathia led both the AL and the NL in shutouts. That stretch with MIL was epic. Like Big Unit with Houston.

Author:	veganfan21 [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:49 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote: This one's fairly easy, but when Andy Hawkins threw a (then) no hitter and lost 4-0 to the Sox in1990 was funny. That's like a Bears game from 2019.

Author:	veganfan21 [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:06 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote: veganfan21 wrote: Regular Reader wrote: This one's fairly easy, but when Andy Hawkins threw a (then) no hitter and lost 4-0 to the Sox in1990 was funny. That's like a Bears game from 2019. Or a Failcons game since their last Super Bowl appearance. I would think a falcons game follows the win probability trend of Clinton's 2016 election performance.

Author:	Crick Ramp [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:10 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote: Crick Ramp wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Here's another anomaly...in 2008 CC Sabathia led both the AL and the NL in shutouts. That stretch with MIL was epic. Like Big Unit with Houston. Or Sutcliffe in 84. True. I tend to remember the 2 I mentioned because (a) I was alive and (b) they crushed the team I was rooting for.? But yeah, 16-1 is pretty remarkable

Author:	FrankDrebin [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:45 am ]
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SpiralStairs wrote: FrankDrebin wrote: SpiralStairs wrote: This is worse than a Wikipedia wormhole. Was looking to see if a pitcher has ever been intentionally walked in a post-season game. In the entire history of major league baseball it has only happened once. Game 4 of the 1932 World Series between the Yankees and Cubs. Top of the seventh inning, Yankees batting. Game tied at 5. Runners on second and third. Red Ruffing pinch hits for Wilcy Moore. Jakie May intentionally walks Ruffing. Myril Hoag then pinch runs for Ruffing. I dunno. Seems weird. PS. They don't make baseball names like they used to. Solid baseball names back then. Not that weird. In 1932, Ruffing hit .306 with 3hrs in 124ABs. But why have a pitcher pinch hit for another pitcher if you were going to pinch run for him anyways? From reading the boxscore, Wilcy Moore had gone 5 1/3 in relief of the starter; Moore comes up with the score tied at 5-5 and runners on 2nd & 3rd. Ruffing appeared to an excellent hitting pitcher, so you use him to try to get a run in. Ruffing had also started Game 1, so taking him out for a pinch runner was so he could be ready to start Game 5 if needed.

Author:	SpiralStairs [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:09 am ]
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But first base was open. So given all you've said it would seem obvious that the Cubs would walk whoever came up next. Which is exactly what happened. Now Yankees are down a pitcher in a tie game late. Granted pitchers back then weren't used like pitchers today, but it is still odd. But this is in days before DH so I suppose that does change things.

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Author:	Rod [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:31 am ]
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Crick Ramp wrote: But yeah, 16-1 is pretty remarkable Isn't a pitcher's W/L record meaningless?

Author:	Crick Ramp [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:27 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Crick Ramp wrote: But yeah, 16-1 is pretty remarkable Isn't a pitcher's W/L record meaningless? I don’t think it’s meaningless.

Author:	Rod [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:27 am ]
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Crick Ramp wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Crick Ramp wrote: But yeah, 16-1 is pretty remarkable Isn't a pitcher's W/L record meaningless? I don’t think it’s meaningless. I appreciate you.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:46 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Crick Ramp wrote: But yeah, 16-1 is pretty remarkable Isn't a pitcher's W/L record meaningless? Starting pitcher is not. Relief pitcher can be.